28-10-2002 01:34									#1
	what is this 9999 population growth thing? Remove this text

Sometimes my cities say there is a 9999 population growth limit or something like that.

What does this mean? What causes it?

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	28-10-2002 01:58									#2
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Civil disorder?

	28-10-2002 02:03									#3
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That just means you cannot grow more citizens due to food restrictions or ccannot produce sheilds because of disorder.

	28-10-2002 02:24									#4
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In Britain it could mean get me an outside line and phone the emergency services but that does not answer your question.

	28-10-2002 02:54									#5
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9999 is evidently the maximum number that can be represented in that field. So if it says something takes 9999 turns, that really means that the current rate is 0, and the event will not happen even after an infinite number of turns at that rate. So if your city needs an aqueduct or a hospital, it will not grow, hence the "9999". Similarly, if your city is in civil disorder, it has no net sheilds, and it "takes 9999 turns" to build something, which really means that at the current rate of 0, it will never be built.

When your city is not taking in surplus food, however, it will simply say "no growth", IIRC. Only lacking an aqueduct or hospital gives the "9999".

	28-10-2002 05:50									#6
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Your city is at maximum population.


Your city is bringing in enough food for growth, but the game doesn't let you get any bigger.

Build the aquaducts, I believe and it can start growing again. After that I think you have to build a hospital.

	28-10-2002 11:12									#7
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Raiche is correct:

Your cities cannot grow any further (i.e. it takes 9999 turns to grow) because you reached the pop limit to grow again, your city needs:

at pop 6: Aqueduct
at pop 12: Hospital

	28-10-2002 16:32									#8
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Raiche23/Todd Hawks are correct in essence but their reasons are incorrect.

When the city reaches it's maximum pop potential, whether it is 6 (no aqueduct), 12 (no hospital) or food limit, what you see is a "-" in the "turns to next growth" box.

When you see 9999, this means that your city is in disorder and no growth or production is possible.

When the city goes back into "order", the 9999 will switch back to the real number of turns or to a "-" which means that the city can't grow anymore.

	28-10-2002 22:56									#9
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Yeah, it's kinda like in the FF series when you'd get 9999 HPs. It's their way of representing a limit.

	29-10-2002 04:57									#10
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umm... that can't be right. My cities are almost always happy as hell, only time in civl disoredr is when I'm switching governments. I get that 9999 growth turns thing then I build an aquaduct and It'll go back to the real number again.

	29-10-2002 20:49									#11
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fittstim is only have right. John nailed it on the head. If you don't have an aquaduct and you are bringing in enough food to grow then it will say "population growth 9999 turns" or whatever, this means you have a food surplus but have no room for the new citizens. It can also happen with shield in civil disoder as well but apparently that's not what your talking about.