28-10-2002 19:08									#1
	The Apolyton Empire: Idea Discussion Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

Okay, i got this idea yesterday, and i'm ready to post it, with a map as well, muhaha

Idea:

This game (nes, sd, interactive story, whatever) will be base on the civilization 3 universe. The world we start on will be called Apolyton, with all the civilizations available, including the coming Play the World ones... plus one civlization called Apolyton, base on this forum, and its structure.

All players will play under with the Apolyton Empire and the level of authourity and ranks will be base on the amount of posts the player as done in this forum... so the more posts in comparison to other players, the higher your rank in the Apolyton Empire, either in the military, politics, economy, or populace in general. This is mainly a starting rank, so won't limit you to much in the game. Only time where it does is that someone with a higher post then you want's your position/rank within the Apolyton Empire, well it will be taken by them in some form, roleplaying style, like an election, a duel, chosen by the leader, and so on.

This will be mainly roleplaying base, where players get to be part of different aspects of the Apolyton civilization...where there seem to be an higher rate of immortals (the players) then other civilizations and have a strange hierarchy (base on the amount of posts). This is roleplaying base, so won't be limited to an actual game being played in Civ3 like the Democracy games...and can be any form of government, chosen by the majority of starting players, muhahaha. Want another government instead? Well be the leader of the faction within the Apolyton Empire with the ideals. Or simply try to declare independence from the empire with a few cities, or whatever. so much intrigue and fun, no?

the other civilizations are just non-player civs which the Apolyton Empire will interact with on the World of Apolyton, base on the game called civilization 3 and the Apolyton Forums...to summarize it a bit.

what do you people think? I'll do the organization, with the help of any volunteers, to have this game started and then keep it going. Don't worry, this doesn't guerantee me as being the leader of the empire, or some other high rank...unless my post count allows it, lol.

this game should be realistic within the context of the civilization 3, but there can still be some comedic fun ...especially between players, lol

-Mellian

	28-10-2002 19:37									#2
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APOLYTON EMPIRE

Players that joined so far:

-Mellian with 1233 posts

The Government Positions available:

Moderator (Leader of the Empire)
Vice-Moderator (Second in Command of the Empire)
Domestic Advisor
Trade Advisor
Military Advisor
Foreign Advisor
Cultural Advisor
Science Advisor
Governor (in-charge of some city)

other government positions depends on the form of government we decide on.


Some Military Positions after the Military Advisor possibilities:

General (there may be more then one, who are incharge of an Army, or a peticular military branch, or responsible for the forces in a peticular sector or city)

Admiral (they may be more then one, who are responsible for a fleet of ships or some other naval related branch)

Colonel (in command of a peticular military unit, which equals to a regiment)

Major (in command of a Battalion within a military ground unit)

Commodore (in command of a task force of naval ships)

Captain (in command of a naval ship or a Company within a Battalion of a military ground unit)

...and so on.

A civ can have more then one Army in this game, just to say... who are lead by a higher rank General. The military ranks may change a bit or not, depending on the kind of government and what age we will start in.

Game Settings and to-do list before game can start:

-figure out the top positions of the Empire, which depends on how many players are interested to join

-Decide in what Age the game should start in: early to late Ancient Age, Medieval Age, Industrial Age or Modern Age? (if enough people are interested, can also start a similar game base on alpha centauri at AC- Fiction)

-Decide on the kind of government we want, which depends on what age we start in

will post the starting map sometime today, once i can clean it up again and figure it out a way to place it here... or link it to some webpage.

-Mellian

	28-10-2002 19:43									#3
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For those who created new accounts and abandoned a previous one where you had a high post count, contact MarkG or DanQ, so they can merge the old post count into your newer account... aslong as the old account is still part of the database anyway... just wanted to mention, as thats what Dan as done for me, lol

also, not interested in starting out in being the leader of the empire when this game starts... doesn't look good in my opinion.

-Mellian

	28-10-2002 21:23									#4
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For those who created new accounts and abandoned a previous one where you had a high post count, contact MarkG or DanQ, so they can merge the old post count into your newer account... aslong as the old account is still part of the database anyway... just wanted to mention, as thats what Dan as done for me, lol

also, not interested in starting out in being the leader of the empire when this game starts... doesn't look good in my opinion.

-Mellian

	28-10-2002 22:51									#5
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may as well show the map before doing much with it. the white box desginates where Apolyton Empire should start, but will accept the decision of the majority of players.

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	28-10-2002 22:53									#6
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Would be nice if people can comment on the game then simply giving it a bad rating gives me a better idea wether this is a good idea or not.

-Mellian

	28-10-2002 23:22									#7
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Sounds like a demo game (except it's not democratic)/NES mix.

	29-10-2002 01:00									#8
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yes, in a way

but there won't be any polls, and unlike the demo games, it is focus more on the roleplaying.

don't like the current government? well start a rebellion! or simply form some party. Want to personally be part of a battle, then simply watching, or reading about... then be a Colonel and lead a Unit for the glory of the empire!

and so on. One player can directly influence the empire, instead of voting in a series of polls or required to be elected. a player can do more then what you can do in civ3, then the democratic games, or even the nes.

anyway, also for creative writing fun. how would the Apolyton civilization be like, based on the Apolyton Forums, and runned by the players, hmm?

-Mellian

	29-10-2002 01:45									#9
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sounds fun. i will give it a try.

	29-10-2002 02:59									#10
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I'll join, and right now I have ~3100 posts.

BTW, is the map random or is it supposed to look like a monkey hurling a rock at an alligator?

	29-10-2002 05:22									#11
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Seems interesting...

I'll give it a try

Saluti

	29-10-2002 06:10									#12
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lol I'm back, and I'll join, it's my half term so I'll have some time thank god.

Chris

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quote: BTW, is the map random or is it supposed to look like a monkey hurling a rock at an alligator?

lol, indeed it does. it is random with some modifications...making room for all of the Civ3 and PTW civilizations as well as the Apolyton civ, unless we decide not to have as many?

keep in mind that the map is actually bigger for this game...see that white box? imagine it being a lot smaller, and think of how big the map would be, lol

will update it like the nes maps, but with white dots to represent cities. may also do a zoom in of the Apolyton Empire so we can name our cities, and possibly our neighbours ones as well.

-Mellian

	29-10-2002 13:11									#14
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APOLYTON EMPIRE

PLayer rankings:

civman2000 with 3090 posts
jdd2007 with 1514
Mellian with 1239
Giovanni Wine with 358
cbraund with 331

civman is qualified to be the Moderator of the Apolyton Empire civilization.

I am interested in being the Foreign Advisor.

players, please state which positions you would like. keep in mind that this thread is just to setup the game, so during that time, you may easilly lose the position you want if someone with a higher post count wants it.

Map: to all players, is the map acceptable? is the starting location okay, without considering resources and the terrain? obviously, my vote would be the designated location and that the map is okay.

Era: which era should we start the game in? my vote is either late-medieval or late-industrial.

Government: what form of government we should have, basing on what era we may start in?

-Mellian

	29-10-2002 22:56									#15
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I accept the post of Moderator. BTW, will this be a full fledged thing with its own forum and lots of detail or a relatively small thing consisting of a few threads on this forum (perhaps a suboforum for it would work)?

I propose to call teh Western COntinent The Monkey, our island The Rock, and the Eastern Continent The Alligator.

quote: Map: to all players, is the map acceptable? is the starting location okay, without considering resources and the terrain? obviously, my vote would be the designated location and that the map is okay. Era: which era should we start the game in? my vote is either late-medieval or late-industrial. Government: what form of government we should have, basing on what era we may start in?

Map is fine. Early-mid middle ages. Monarchy (it invites more revolutions that a monarchy )

	30-10-2002 00:51									#16
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I like the map as well.... and I agree with "civman's classification of it"

I think that the starting era and gov't picked by civman are good.

I'd like to be the Domestic Advisor.

Saluti

	30-10-2002 01:01									#17
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Hmmm, seems my post count is pitiful lol.

Anyway, I'd like to be Admiral Nemesis of the Fleets, if possible

Chris AKA Nemesis(on CFC)

	30-10-2002 01:18									#18
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I think I might want to play as a general of a ground army or maybe an admiral. My post count is around 300 or somthing like that. I would prefer bieing Admiral of a entire fleet. I was think maybe we should have some people as the other civs since the computer does stupid things many times, and we could still have the focus on the Apolyton Empire.

	30-10-2002 01:28									#19
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quote: Originally posted by civman2000 I accept the post of Moderator. BTW, will this be a full fledged thing with its own forum and lots of detail or a relatively small thing consisting of a few threads on this forum (perhaps a suboforum for it would work)?

I plan to organize it into three threads for now: Story/Game thread, Discussion thread and the Great Library thread.

as the gamemistress, and as the Foreign Advisor, i will maintain the Great Library thread with the latest map updates, zoom in maps of the Apolyton Empire, various stats and so on. players are free to add to it, depending on their position and role in the game. like for example the domestic advisor can post various domestic related information while the Fleet Admiral of the Navy. people have creation rights base on their roles. The moderator can post various stuff as well, lol

If this game becomes popular enough, i may propose to MarkG and DanQ for its own sub-forum within the Civ3 - Stories.

quote: I propose to call teh Western COntinent The Monkey, our island The Rock, and the Eastern Continent The Alligator.

your the Moderator of the Empire, you can name anything the way you want, lol just to don't expect the other civs to call the continents the same way.

quote: Map is fine. Early-mid middle ages. Monarchy (it invites more revolutions that a monarchy )

I change my vote to mid-Medieval Age then, with Monarchy the chain of the command would be:

-Moderator
-Vice-Moderator (if the mod chooses to have one)
-Advisors
-Military Commanders and the Governors
-and the ranks goes all the way down to the village's idiot.

This means the Advisors obeys the Mod within the game, Fleet Admiral of the Navy obeys the Military Advisor and Moderator (rest of the positions will be taken by default NPCs until someone takes it) and so on.


Will post the updated map with the starting civilizations in the The Apolyton Empire: Great Library.

-Mellian

	30-10-2002 01:36									#20
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Well I would like to be a Gerneral then. Maybe once we get tanks I can command a armor division. Mellian I was wondering who is going to play the role of other civs? Someone has to speak for them.

	30-10-2002 01:41									#21
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quote: Originally posted by cbraund Hmmm, seems my post count is pitiful lol. Anyway, I'd like to be Admiral Nemesis of the Fleets, if possible Chris AKA Nemesis(on CFC)

How about Admiral Nemesis, Commander of the Navy sound?

-Mellian

	30-10-2002 01:45									#22
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If no one take millitary adivisor I might be willing to take the spot.

	30-10-2002 01:56									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www Well I would like to be a Gerneral then. Maybe once we get tanks I can command a armor division. Mellian I was wondering who is going to play the role of other civs? Someone has to speak for them.

so far, the majority voted in starting out in Mid-Medieval, so we won't have tanks right away. the timing will be one real day equals to one real month, and people can do their story posts anytime between the starting game date and to the current gamedate, as long as it doesn't contradict game posts base on a later gamedate that are already been posted.

of course, if the majority agrees that one real day equals to one game month.

As for the other civs, i rather wait until the game starts and have more players before having people representing them. until then, relations with them will be base on what the players say in the game... like for example, if even one mentions that we were at war with a peticular civ a while back and doesn't contradict past information, it is canon. so the players have indirect control of them anyway.

-Mellian

	30-10-2002 01:57									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www If no one take millitary adivisor I might be willing to take the spot.

Okay

-Mellian

	30-10-2002 01:59									#25
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one question, what would be the Apolyton Empire's official color? lol

-Mellian

	30-10-2002 02:20									#26
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this color

	30-10-2002 02:22									#27
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quote: -Vice-Moderator (if the mod chooses to have one)

I will appoint almost anyone interested.

quote: This means the Advisors obeys the Mod within the game, Fleet Admiral of the Navy obeys the Military Advisor and Moderator

Note that this obedience is not required. i wanna be overthrown, let's have some intrigue!

	30-10-2002 03:17									#28
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i would like to be the vice moderator

	30-10-2002 03:36									#29
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Here is the map, which shows the locations of the different civs and their territories. I chose yellow for Apolyton for now, but i can change if people doesn't like it.

Monkey Continent

-Russia are brown
-Mongols are some weird green, beside the Russians
-Iroquois are purple
-Germans are blue
-English are Orange
-Americans are Light Blue
-Spanish are Gray
-French are Pink-Purple
-Aztecs are light green
-Incas are Pink-Red

Rock Continent, also known as Apolyton

-Apolyton are yellow

Alligator Continent

-Vikings are the top blue
-Celts are brown beside the Vikings
-Egyptians are yellow-green
-Greeks are Green
-Romans are Red
-Babylon are dark blue
-Ottomans are purple-gray
-Carthage are dark brown
-Koreans are Aqua
-Arabs are purple-red
-Persia are orange
-Chinese are blue
-Japanese are red-brown
-Zulus are black (i know i know...)
-Indians are purple


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	30-10-2002 05:20									#30
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I just want to tell you guys, for PTW only 8 civs are playable for mp. I dont know about sp, I think you can play all 24 civs, but we will need a really good computer to run the game on.