29-10-2002 01:33									#1
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So when we get PTW. Will our single play games of Civ3 be enhanced? (New features, new buttons, etc)

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	29-10-2002 02:04									#2
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Yes

	29-10-2002 02:43									#3
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm Yes

	29-10-2002 05:03									#4
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by a tiny tiny bit

	29-10-2002 05:13									#5
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Oh, you wanted more than a yes or no answer.

Seriously, yes, it will.

There will be:

User interface enhancements (stack commands, buttons for all actions, etc.)

8 new civs

1 New wonder

2 new units available to everyone

2 new building types

airfields, radar towers, outposts

New victory conditions (mainly geared for MP)

lots of scenarios and mods

better mod manager

and some other stuff I'm forgetting

	29-10-2002 05:18									#6
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All of which should have been

And lots of scenarios + Multiplayer we where originally told would be

In Civ3 originally

but nevermind if you wish to pay an extra £35 above the £35 that you payed for the original game (dunno what that is in dollars)
Sure there will be many people who will be delighted to do this but im afraid im not one

(please no one say "Not this LAME argument again") cause its just a true statement and that is all

	29-10-2002 05:34									#7
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quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG All of which should have been And lots of scenarios + Multiplayer we where originally told would be In Civ3 originally but nevermind if you wish to pay an extra £35 above the £35 that you payed for the original game (dunno what that is in dollars) Sure there will be many people who will be delighted to do this but im afraid im not one (please no one say "Not this LAME argument again") cause its just a true statement and that is all

Its not a true statement. 35 pounds? what's that American, 50 bucks? PTW is 30 dollars brainiac.

When were you told MP would be in the game? I knew that it wouldn't at least a month or two before it came out.

I find this post especially ironic considering how you've touted CtP here before.

	29-10-2002 05:35									#8
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm Oh, you wanted more than a yes or no answer. Seriously, yes, it will. There will be: User interface enhancements (stack commands, buttons for all actions, etc.) 8 new civs 1 New wonder 2 new units available to everyone 2 new building types airfields, radar towers, outposts New victory conditions (mainly geared for MP) lots of scenarios and mods better mod manager and some other stuff I'm forgetting

new trade screen, can see what is active when you click on the AI

new espionage screen

	29-10-2002 05:48									#9
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£35 - Woolworths
£35 - HMV

I dont make these prices up now gone down to £30 i think

And

quote: When were you told MP would be in the game? I knew that it wouldn't at least a month or two before it came out.

YES!! but as you have even said here FIRAXIS still said it was going to be in Civ3 !!

quote: I find this post especially ironic considering how you've touted CtP here before.

What is the exactly suppose to mean, I would love to know.
As you dont even know my involvment in CtP(2) this is a sillly thing to say.
I like CtP(2) TWO that is. MODDED ONLY. So any reference to Activision making a muck up of CtP2 on release is invalid (although I am mutually aware that they did this obviously)

SADLY due to the extremely POOR modding capabilites of Civ3 I still do not like the game
As if CtP2 had no modding capabilites or ones as crap as Civ3 then I would similarly dislike that game.

	29-10-2002 06:04									#10
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quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG £35 - Woolworths £35 - HMV I dont make these prices up now gone down to £30 i think

Whatever, it's 29.99 US at amazon and eb, which is quite a bit less than 35 pounds.

quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG And YES!! but as you have even said here FIRAXIS still said it was going to be in Civ3 !!

When did i say that?

All I know is that I knew that there would not be MP in the game at least a month before it came out. Are you saying that whatever is promised at a beginning of a games' lifecycle must be kept in the game? That's quite irrational. time constraints?

quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG What is the exactly suppose to mean, I would love to know. As you dont even know my involvment in CtP(2) this is a sillly thing to say.

Sorry, it was a guess, I'm not reading your posts on other forums, not worth my time.

quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG I like CtP(2) TWO that is. MODDED ONLY. So any reference to Activision making a muck up of CtP2 on release is invalid (although I am mutually aware that they did this obviously)

How is that invalid? You were talking about promises broken by firaxis, I retorted with CtP(2) which was far worse off than Civ3 on release. And we haven't had to rely on crafty progrmmers to fix the problems that plagued CtP2.

quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG SADLY due to the extremely POOR modding capabilites of Civ3 I still do not like the game

Did you actually buy a copy of the game, or have you just listened to what people have said? I have modded the game as I've pleased with no problems, as have others.

	31-10-2002 12:44									#11
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For single player it is worth it just to paly some of the new victory conditions and have fun with quiker games. Just puts a new spin on it. Kind of high priced but if you like civ it will give you more things to play around with and have some fun.

	31-10-2002 15:47									#12
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Warpstorm, hows the WWII scenario? Is there a punic wars scenario too?

	31-10-2002 15:47									#13
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To answer the original post, yes.

New civs. New UUs. New orders. New worker actions. More buildings and wonders. Better editor (did you want bombers with 256 range?).

A more advanced version of Civ3. <--- Period.

	31-10-2002 21:35									#14
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So no new diplomatic options?