29-10-2002 04:19									#1
	OK, so I'm a loser -- help me cheat Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

I hate to abandon a game, but I'm in a bad spot. Playing only regent (I know, a wimp) but the game's spaking me like a level or two higher. I've put a lot of hours into the game and am around 1300 or so. I've got the French, and wish I could have muskateers, but here's the problem: no saltpeter. The available saltpeter is in the center of highly defended enemy continents; those enemies don't like me and I have nothing they want to change that opinion.

So rather than abandon the game before the inevitable slaughter, I'll bow to my cheatin' heart and ask for evil help. Has anyone seen a cheat program that can add a resource to a map? I just want to add one little saltpeter.

[I hope this is the right forum -- didn't see a more suitable one for this]

	29-10-2002 04:39									#2
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Disclaimer:
I do not endorse cheating. Cheating is bad, and it takes the fun out of a great game. Cheaters should play the game on an easier level and actually get better. Etc, etc, etc.

Well, I may get the crap flamed out of me for this, but...

You might try using the Civ3 MultiTool which you can find in the Files section. Whether it can add a resource, I dont know, but it might help you cheat and obtain one through, err, other means...

But, you should really try do go without if you can. A couple of Techs might just soften up a cold hearthed enemy...

	29-10-2002 04:56									#3
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number of things from an editting stand point, start with extra settlers, extra free techs.

if your really bad, start your self off at the middle ages!

by the way, i do not cheat! you can tell in my current game, i'm behind with techs. And i am struggling to setller on all of my island!

	29-10-2002 04:57									#4
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the "unwinnable" wars are some of the best to learn from.

and plus, you may win somehow

	29-10-2002 05:14									#5
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Hey, you're not tally lost, you can still build pikemen right? Play it out and see how it goes. There is a way to survive without gunpowder, or even oil later on. Just mass up your army and you should be alright.

	29-10-2002 05:31									#6
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I do not know of any cheats, but put up a sav so we can see what is going on.

	29-10-2002 05:54									#7
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Don't worry TOO much about not getting musketeers. yes, missing your UU sux immensly but sometimes you have to. Just remember that there are a long 750 years to the game left and if you concentrate on building and diplomacy for example, you may streak ahead in techs so that you won't need muskateers anymore. Just try to keep playing, change tactics, and learn. You may still win, it depends on the diplomacy.

	29-10-2002 20:44									#8
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I think I remember seeing some kind of cheat program on avault but I don't know. As for my feelings on cheating if your getting angry over a single player game go ahead and "cheat" (as long as you can't do it in multiplayer) if it makes it more fun for you. However if you ever want to play multiplayer I'd suggest that after you not cheat excessivly, and that once you start winning easily you stop and start playing with out cheats. This will really help you in MP where you (hopefully) wont be able to use those cheats.

	29-10-2002 21:31									#9
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Saltpeter is probably the resource I miss least if I don't get it. Not having a UU is a pain, but fighting a war with musketeers to get your GA is no fun, either.

I've played the French several times and probably have triggered the GA with wonders more often than with combat. You can defend yourself with pikemen while waiting for riflemen to show up. Musketeers don't appear at a great time for offensive operations.

	29-10-2002 21:33									#10
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Or even if you still want to cheat, continue playing a non-cheat version too. Not only is there a lot to learn, but going from underdog to victor can be quite a rush! Or at the very least keep your non-cheat version in case you change your mind and... "evil" isn't to your liking.

	29-10-2002 21:42									#11
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Disclaimer: I don't endorse cheating, either.

OK, I think you should proceed with the game. To me, stuff like that is what makes the game fun... if there is no challenge, I fail to see where the fun is. See if the enemies attack you. If they do, you'll have to use some tactics to win the war that seems unwinnable... it's OK, and it's fun. And really, you might win it.

I'm not too upset if I lack Saltpeter. At least not till Cavalries. My bet would be live with it, but still try to trade for it, Cavalries really rule.

	29-10-2002 21:57									#12
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My advice is to try and "stick it out" and keep playing... but if you really want to quit and be done with the whole mess, at least try and figure out how you got into it in the first place so you will have learned something.

Otherwise, the next Regent game you play might lead to the same situation.

	30-10-2002 10:51									#13
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If you are currently at war, then try to get some to ally with you and war with your enemy. They will usually recruit a civ or to and before you know it there is a world war (always lots of fun).

As for the satpeter WHO CARES. I personaly this rubber is better (God bless thos artilary and infantry). The only thing that ticks me off is not getting coal.

As for being french, its easy to win because your industrious and comercial. If you cant build it, buy it. Having a lower science rate for extra cash can give you a boost with improvements (like banks and unis) to help you rocket through the latter eras. I had a french regent in space b4 1950's once