31-10-2002 19:34									#1
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it was sent to me via mail...

	31-10-2002 19:37									#2
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OK, this proves that I'm no more perverse than anyone else in this world...

	31-10-2002 19:38									#3
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And BTW, it doesn't seem too real to me...

	31-10-2002 20:10									#4
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Something funny with this one.


http://www.mediaresearch.org/cybera...cyb20020222.asp

CBS’s Bob Schieffer claimed on Imus in the Morning that when President Ronald Reagan visited the Korean DMZ he failed to remove the lens cap from his binoculars, but as pictures shown by RushLimbaugh.com and FNC prove, that was a problem President Bill Clinton really had.

On the February 20 Imus in the Morning radio program simulcast on MSNBC, on the occasion of President George W. Bush going to the demilitarized zone (DMZ) between North Korea and South Korea, Schieffer recalled his own visits to the DMZ. MRC analyst Ken Shepherd took down his memories:
Schieffer: "I’ve been up there a couple of times, it’s quite an impressive thing. I went up there once with George Schultz when he was Secretary of State and once actually with Jimmy Carter when he was President. The interesting thing is they always, you know, have these big binoculars that the President can look through and you look across the DMZ and you see the, you can see the communists on the other side and Ronald Reagan when he was President-"
Don Imus quipped: "Or you could have looked at the press corps frankly, you wouldn’t need the binoculars."
Schieffer, missing Imus’s hit on journalists, blithely continued: "Exactly. Well, what happened with Reagan was they gave him the binoculars and he looked through them and Reagan knew, there’s never been a bad picture of Ronald Reagan, after all he did have the Hollywood background, he looked through the binoculars and so forth and then somebody realized they hadn’t taken the caps off. I mean this is for sure, this is for real. And so they had a little glitch there while they took ‘em down but he wasn’t about to let on when they first gave them to him."

Last night to end FNC’s Special Report with Brit Hume, fill-in anchor Tony Snow showed side by side photos of Clinton in 1993 and George W. Bush a few days ago as each looked north through binoculars when they were at the DMZ. Clinton’s binoculars had the lens caps on, Bush’s did not. Rush Limbaugh’s Web site has posted the side-by-side photos:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/da...022102/content/
dumb_at_the_dmz.guest.html

I can’t guarantee that Reagan didn’t have the same problem as Clinton, but I’d put my money on Schieffer getting it wrong, especially since he had a whole explanative narrative going about Reagan playing a movie role. And if Reagan did have a lense cap problem, Clinton is a much newer example Schieffer could have cited for his humorous anecdote.

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I also found a few other pictures posted, but not this exact one. Which proves nothing, but since this flap has been done before, it could have given someone an idea. The links to rushlimbaugh were all bad links.

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	31-10-2002 20:18									#5
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And another photo.

Considering all the places I checked, there was no mention of the one you posted Mark, which makes it seem a bit more suspicious.

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	31-10-2002 20:19									#6
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It doesn't look faked. If it is it is very well done.

But even if it is real, it doesn't really say much because the press are snapping away at the rate of dozens of pics a second. So even if it only took him a really brief glance before realizing the caps were on, someone would have got the picture. And there is no shame in lifting them to your eyes before realizing.

	31-10-2002 20:22									#7
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So maybe Bush forgot to take of the lenseprotection, moves the binoculars to his eyes and in the glimpse of a moment before he discovers his mistake someone takes a photo. No big deal. Anyone can make that kind of mistake.

Even I.

	31-10-2002 20:24									#8
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Yes, I agree that there wouldn't be much shame, but I searched over a 100 sites. If this picture is real, it is pretty funny and You would think people would be having a field day with it. That's the reason I'm suspicious. I'm sure if we wait another week, it will start appearing in more places, and finally the urban legend sites will start looking into it.

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It does look well done.

	31-10-2002 21:12									#9
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Its a fake. Look around the presidents eye. You can see the spot of focused light which has come through the scope.

	31-10-2002 21:22									#10
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Lefty's right.

	31-10-2002 21:26									#11
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Looks real.

	31-10-2002 21:48									#12
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somebody hates you mark if they send you such large pictures

	31-10-2002 22:39									#13
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Something's definately not right. The focused light ought to be on the Prez's eyes, not below them. Heck, if the lens caps were off, it seems unlikely that there would be that patch of brightness there at all.

However, I don't see anything wrong with it, even if it were true. I have occassionally glanced into a pair of binocculars only to discover I've forgotten to remove the cap. It's humorous, but it doesn't mean anything

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	31-10-2002 22:53									#14
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George W. Bush can see through the caps. He was only using binocculars to maintain his cover, but he blew it because the caps were on. Now the truth is out, George W. Bush is actually Superman.

	31-10-2002 23:04									#15
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This reminds me of the pic of Dubya holding a book upside down.

And just for the record, this is also a fake.Link

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	31-10-2002 23:19									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola Its a fake. Look around the presidents eye. You can see the spot of focused light which has come through the scope.

The focused light is from in between the rubber eyepieces, and the hard shadow is due to the fact that the binoculars are close to the President's face. With the distance of the eyepiece to the face, the maximum width of any light source coming through the binocular would be about 10-11 milimeters at either eye. The width between the inner sides of the eyecups is about 30 millimeters, and with the sun angle, (look at the light/shadow demarcations on the four-star to Bush's right, and the bright reflection off the right sleeve of the CSM to Bush's left., the bright patch below Bush's right eye is in the right place.

Nothing in the photo shows any signs of tampering.


Hell, I've done that with binoculars, and I own a few. At least half the time when I give them to someone else, if I haven't taken the caps off, people do the same thing. I'd imagine the mainstream press wouldn't use the photo, because it's really meaningless, except to mock the President, and most people would do the same thing (find out the caps are on when you look through them), so it's not even a good point of mockery.

	01-11-2002 00:10									#17
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Okay, I see it now. At first I thought the light was coming through or under the binocculars, but it's coming down from above. If you look at the corner of the Prez's eye, you can see it's brighter there as well. So the bright patch is coming from above, not in front.

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So its real, but pointless.

	01-11-2002 02:05									#19
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Yep, no big deal. I'm sure I've done something like that before...

	01-11-2002 02:10									#20
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It's still funny.

	01-11-2002 02:11									#21
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Of course.

	01-11-2002 02:17									#22
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No question about it.

	01-11-2002 02:20									#23
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Absolutely.

	01-11-2002 02:22									#24
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Indubitably.

	01-11-2002 02:44									#25
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I have done that many times with binoculars, forgetting to remove the cap before looking into it.

	01-11-2002 02:54									#26
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not a big deal, really...just looks funny because he's got such a wide smile

	01-11-2002 05:20									#27
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How can you tell you have left the caps on unless you look? The is what Bush is doing, checking to see if the caps needs removing or not.

	01-11-2002 05:28									#28
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And here I though this was going to be full of fake t*ts.

	01-11-2002 05:35									#29
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Let's not get too technical about how easily this is done, it still looks apt and silly