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THE TALE OF THE YEARS - 1550 AD

1460 - Explore with Triremes, move Caravans and Diplomats. Rush Freeport Settler to use for bottleneck city. Change Valladolid production to Courthouse.

1480 - Barb Horses at Freeport. Bribe nearest one for 41 gold and use it to kill the other 3. Leaves Freeport short of food and shields, so disband a Warrior to save Settler or new Horse (note from later - it would have been better to disband the horse because it caused unhappiness being outside the city and 3 turns from returning due to being wounded). Freeport will go into Disorder regardless of attempts to prevent it. Build Courthouse in Valladolid.

1500 - Explore with Triremes, move Caravans and Diplomats. Have to disband Freeport Horse to prevent permanent Disorder.

1510 - Barb Chariots kill exploring Horse east of Freeport. Tip Hut for 100 gold.

1520 - Start Cordoba Library. Explore with Triremes, move Caravans and Diplomats. Build city "Whale Island".

1530 - Explore with Triremes, move Caravans and Diplomats. Tip Hut, get NONE Crusader!

1540 - Explore with Triremes, move Caravans and Diplomats. Get Gunpowder! Start Medicine. We have 41 Musketeers. Rush 2 Warriors to get them cheap (14 gold). Build "Panama Canal" at "bottleneck". Use 7 Caravans and 120 gold to finish Adam's.

1550 - Carth's attack our Trireme; we win, become Vet. Salt Caravan to Xinjian, 216 gold. Adam's is ours; maintenance costs drop to 4 gold from 29 gold. Return tax rate to 80% science, 10% tax, 10% luxury.

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Summary:

We are safely in Republic, our tech rate is down to 8 turns, our maintenance costs are only 4 gold per turn, we have Musketeers in every city, we have a few strategically-placed Crusaders or HGorse for offensive needs, we have Triremes exploring the world, some Dips being carried to Barb locations to bribe them into NONE units, we have Caravans moving to Capitol for building the next Wonder and some Caravans are going for trade (gold and beakers). We are ahead of the civs we know of in techs. We have Leo's to upgrade our units at no cost.

Some concerns: The Celts are tracking us on the powergraph and we need to be careful about them. We have little city infrastructure, as we have been living off Caravans and Diplomats and Triremes.

We need some things: Caravels, Engineers, Freight, shield production, Libraries and other city improvements. Democracy would be a good thing to research.

It will be interesting to see what the next Cabinet does.

I will send the 1550ad game file to the new President, whenever the new President is decided upon.

It has been a distinct pleasure being your President this past month, and I wish the best for the incoming Cabinet. I know I appreciate the efforts of my Ministers this month. I've tried to leave the new Cabinet with some immediate gains and potentially beneficial actions to take. I know they will do well!

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Apologies again for the lack of a Trade report this time. I had another exam yesterday (my time), and I thought I remembered that you usually played on weekends, so I could get away with study until now.

Sorry cavebear, but at least we got the 2 WoWs that we wanted.

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still no new contact with anyone else? Either they're all stuck on an island together, or at least two per island and fighting it out, or they still haven't finished expanding yet Otherwise we would be seeing celtic and Mongol ships covering the oceans.

I see that we have the fastest growing population though

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YEAH! NOW WE HAVE THE 3 OF THE 5 MOST IMPORTANT WOWs, YEAH! (The other 2 are UN and Apollo for winning a space race.)

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Apologies again for the lack of a Trade report this time. I had another exam yesterday (my time), and I thought I remembered that you usually played on weekends, so I could get away with study until now.

Sorry cavebear, but at least we got the 2 WoWs that we wanted.


No problem. The advice from your previous report applied to this session as well.

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Excellent month, Cavebear!

Now that we have Adam's and a surplus, it's time to really step up the production levels! We need to keep the caravans coming, but also build infrastructure -- especially markets and libraries.

I totally agree that Democracy should be reached ASAP, putting an end to the petty corruption that besets our far-flung empire.

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It has been a pleasure serving ... We(the apolytonian empire) made some huge progress.

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As the incumbent city planner and possible re-elect for next term I find this news to be very exciting. I can now fulfill my campaign promise of a market place for every city, Libraries in even the smallest towns, temples for all citizens to worship, and not to mention the great buildings of learning........University's (although probably reserved for some of the larger cities. ) We can also look forward to new banking systems and of course the aqueduct systems we so badly need to encourage the growth and well being of our populous.


These will indeed be exciting times in the city planners office, i may need to temp some of Hydey's Beutifull.......err helpfull staff members.

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I had no idea our maintenance costs were so high! Let's give our very good friend Adam Smith a very warm welcome into Apolyton.

How much would we need to divert to luxuries to start celebrating? Zedd- do you feel that we should wait until Democracy before we start to grow our cities? Sometimes the corruption can be all that stops a city from celebrating.

Once we upgrade the city infrastructure
we can leave the Celts behind as we start to surge in population.

Excellent job President Cavebear Keep up the good work as Minister of Trade this term and keep listening to Mr. Smith. Scottish thrift will enrich Apolyton!

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I had no idea our maintenance costs were so high! Let's give our very good friend Adam Smith a very warm welcome into Apolyton.[


Our maintenance costs were actually quite low. We really only had Temples and a few Marketplaces. I normally have Temples, Marketplaces, Libraries, Banks, and Universities in all my cities by this point in a game. So I really appreciate Adam's help in managing my civ's expenses.

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How much would we need to divert to luxuries to start celebrating? Zedd- do you feel that we should wait until Democracy before we start to grow our cities? Sometimes the corruption can be all that stops a city from celebrating.


I don't know what Zedd thinks, but I don't think it is very worthwhile to WLTxD in Republic. I would save that for Democracy (which we could be researching now, but the Citizens didn't choose that in the last poll). Democracies respond better to Luxuries than Republics do.

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Once we upgrade the city infrastructure
we can leave the Celts behind as we start to surge in population.


Those Celts are right on our tails, aren't they? I can't wait to find them so we can learn what they are up to and how strong they really are. The Powergraph can be misleading at times.

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Excellent job President Cavebear Keep up the good work as Minister of Trade this term and keep listening to Mr. Smith. Scottish thrift will enrich Apolyton!


Thank you. We will use Mr. Smith's talents to good advantage. I, however, will depend on my New England Yankee background for a sense of thrift combined with a desire for a beneficial trade of goods with other civs.

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Excelent month Mr President

But I got one question:

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1540 - Explore with Triremes, move Caravans and Diplomats. Get Gunpowder! Start Medicine. We have 41 Musketeers. Rush 2 Warriors to get them cheap (14 gold). Build "Panama Canal" at "bottleneck". Use 7 Caravans and 120 gold to finish Adam's.


Why rush the warriors after you've invented GP?
They'll upgrade with the next tech, and we can keep building warriors in city's that build them now for a long time

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I don't know what Zedd thinks, but I don't think it is very worthwhile to WLTxD in Republic. I would save that for Democracy (which we could be researching now, but the Citizens didn't choose that in the last poll). Democracies respond better to Luxuries than Republics do.


I agree, lets focus now on getting every major city 3 traderoutes, markets and banks.
Then with demo we can celebrate our whole empire at once

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Excelent month Mr President

But I got one question:

Why rush the warriors after you've invented GP?
They'll upgrade with the next tech, and we can keep building warriors in city's that build them now for a long time


Now that we have gunpowder/musketeers, warriors/phalanx/legions are no longer options in the building queue. But there is a narrow window of time where started units of earlier types can still be completed for later upgrade. I chose to finish some Warriors for later upgrade before the game "upgraded" our production choices to Musketeers at the higher shield cost.

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Here, for example is a city option list:

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Now that we have gunpowder/musketeers, warriors/phalanx/legions are no longer options in the building queue. But there is a narrow window of time where started units of earlier types can still be completed for later upgrade. I chose to finish some Warriors for later upgrade before the game "upgraded" our production choices to Musketeers at the higher shield cost.



As long as we dont have Feud we can keep building warriors in those city's forever.

Just dont change production from warrior to anything else.

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yes that is correct

hydey is pissed and may be wrong

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A good month indeed
and a better situation, even if money is not our thing !
Thank you President Cavebear

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The continuous Warrior thing is interesting. Freeport and Whale Island are still on Warrior production, but if you so much as *open* the change screen, you are forced into making something else because Warrior isn't on the list any more! I had never noticed that before because I've always had Feudalism early (I like Pikemen because of the inevitable Barb Horsemen or aggressive human opponents).

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Well done!

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The continuous Warrior thing is interesting. Freeport and Whale Island are still on Warrior production, but if you so much as *open* the change screen, you are forced into making something else because Warrior isn't on the list any more!


if you should happen to accidently open the change screen, ask for advice then press cancel, it wont change production. (or at least in my experience)

I wasnt here for this last term, but it looks good so far...with the exception of the 25year life span.

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I can't get that to work, but maybe I'm doing it wrong. I'm pressing the "help button on the production screen, but that still selects the Settler default choice.

 
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