03-11-2002 01:59									#1
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In my current game, I see that the Zulu have several ruins on their land. Has anyone figured out if they do anything? Can the be "cleaned" like pollution?

	03-11-2002 02:30									#2
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They don't do anything , but you can settle right on top of one

No need to clean them up.

	03-11-2002 02:38									#3
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I think I've seen ruins destroyed by the ai-pillaged cause was on an iron supply w/road

	03-11-2002 03:52									#4
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Ruins can be left behind when you capture a size 1 city. I did a few and it leaves ruins ala Warlords. As was said you can send a settler over to create a new city as if it never existed.

	03-11-2002 03:56									#5
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They also occur if you raze a captured city.

	03-11-2002 03:58									#6
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also by abandoning

too bad they don't give a bonus of any type

	03-11-2002 04:07									#7
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Could it be an idea to give some benefits like extra gold(tourism) or starting buildings/cheaper buildings of previously built ones in that city, if you found a new city on top of it?

	03-11-2002 06:31									#8
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I think a tourism (+ gold) for ruins would be cool, maybe like +5 per turn for each ruin you have within your borders or something.

Also, just as a side-note with razing cities...I think your population should become very unhappy, and your enemy's pop. too when you raze one of their cities. Slaughtering the citizens of a city...especially when size 20+ , should make at least one person pissed.

	03-11-2002 06:34									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Mr. Schwang I think a tourism (+ gold) for ruins would be cool, maybe like +5 per turn for each ruin you have within your borders or something.

I can see it now: a strategy where you build settlers to just abandon their cities in the grid of another city

It would be cool to get a benefit of them.

	03-11-2002 07:08									#10
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Well actually in 3000bc, people did not get upset about killing or razing. Do not put todays values on the past, it does not fit.
I would not mind it the ruins could be rebuilt with an engineer that was available with settlers and need only 1 pop.

	03-11-2002 07:54									#11
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 Well actually in 3000bc, people did not get upset about killing or razing. Do not put todays values on the past, it does not fit.

You've been watching too many Conan movies.

Sure they did, especially if they were the ones gettin' killed and razed...

	03-11-2002 08:01									#12
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 I would not mind it the ruins could be rebuilt with an engineer that was available with settlers and need only 1 pop.

now that sounds like an interesting idea. would certainly help with the scorched earth warfare.

	03-11-2002 08:53									#13
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well as late the middle ages people would make mass executions and beheadings. The citizen got upset when they lost, not when they damaged others.

	03-11-2002 12:31									#14
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I right-click to find what's underneath the ruins. If you mine or irrigate the tile, the ruins disappear.