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Bubblewrap
Dec 2000
time: 06:23
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<DBTS^COM> ok GT i am going to talk to zak now so please pay attetion CHAT HAS BEGUN!
<DBTS^COM> he is ambivalent....
* GT^DoFA waits expectantly.
<GT^DoFA> we knew that.
* Mania^DTC fears.
<DBTS^COM> he has (2-1-2) 
<GT^DoFA>
<DBTS^COM> he WANT doc: loy
<GT^DoFA> Don't give it.
created on Sat Nov 02 16:08:02 2002
<DBTS^COM> sure?
<Lemmy^DEI> he's threatening?
<GT^DoFA> He's in no position to threaten us and we're not supposed to give away those kind of techs.
<DBTS^COM> ok we have war with zak....
<Lemmy^DEI> what?
<Lemmy^DEI> 
<GT^DoFA> What!?
<DBTS^COM> and he is obstinate
<GT^DoFA> Did he actually declare war?
<DBTS^COM> yes
<ATG02_DSE> Ack
<Lemmy^DEI> why?
<Joeno^AT> Oh dear..
<Mania^DTC> How did we get his commlink again? Pod or Morgan?
<Lemmy^DEI> pod
<ATG02_DSE> Pod
<DBTS^COM> not good beginning
<DBTS^COM> pod
<GT^DoFA> @$$hole
<Mania^DTC> darn - so no map of him
<DBTS^COM> and no tech
<GT^DoFA> Well, he's in no position to threaten us, but we aren't either
<DBTS^COM> so now what end turn? or talk to morgan
<GT^DoFA> Shall we try to get peace this chat, before it all goes public?
<Lemmy^DEI> hehe
<GT^DoFA> Does Morgan have anything to give us?
<Lemmy^DEI> it goes public anyway
<DBTS^COM> :S
<Mania^DTC> if we're planned, I wouldn't contact Morgan...
<DBTS^COM> not yet in two turn he does
<DBTS^COM> we are planned
<ATG02_DSE> We could get Morgan to declare war on Zakh . . . he'll be more likely to do it now than he would be later.
<DBTS^COM> and not changing right adam
<DBTS^COM> so talk to morgan yes or no?
<GT^DoFA> I don't think that would be a good idea... it could get inconvenient.
<Mania^DTC> So at least nothing's keeping us from going Wealth. 
<ATG02_DSE> Correct. The poll says stay with Planned.
<GT^DoFA> About getting Morgan to attack Zak
* Mania^DTC 2
* ATG02_DSE nods
* Lemmy^DEI no
<ATG02_DSE> Just putting the idea out.
<DBTS^COM> ok then we are ending turn?
* Mania^DTC 1
<GT^DoFA> Yes. Don't talk to Morgan 'till he has the tech.
<DBTS^COM> for newbies 1=yes 2=no 3=abstian
<DBTS^COM> k ending turn
<Mania^DTC> or 4=write-in
* GT^DoFA 1
* ATG02_DSE 1
<DBTS^COM> ok gaian build HGP....everone started work on ME
<GT^DoFA> f*ck the ME.
<DBTS^COM> that all that happened i will be starting terraforming rounds for this turn so talk with eachother
<Mania^DTC>
<GT^DoFA> Morgan get's Gene Splicing next turn, yes?
<Mania^DTC> Right.
<GT^DoFA> Can you talk w/ Zak next turn and try for peace?
<GT^DoFA> Make it one with no strings attatched.
<Mania^DTC> we can always try - I doubt it'll work
<Mania^DTC> AdamTG: will we go Wealth this chat?
<GT^DoFA> Nothing to lose.
<Lemmy^DEI> are all units within territory?
<Lemmy^DEI> oh, nm
<ATG02_DSE> No. The poll hasn't closed, and IO want to put off antagonizing Zakh for a while.
<Lemmy^DEI> that's for FM
<ATG02_DSE> I only had one day to poll, so none of my polls are valid until the next chat.
<GT^DoFA> No. we still have at least 1 explorer up north.
<Mania^DTC> 
<DBTS^COM> ok what to do did all the former thingies
<Mania^DTC> Legal language because you don't want to go wealth? 
<DBTS^COM> and i am ready to end turn
<ATG02_DSE> No. Exactly what I said. The poll hasn't closed.
<DBTS^COM> so talk to zak or not
<GT^DoFA> Yes. Nothing to lose.
<ATG02_DSE> I would have polled right after my election, but that would be unconstitutional. I wasn't Director yet.
<DBTS^COM> ok he want to talk
<GT^DoFA> Talk then.
<Mania^DTC> Then I'll propose an amendment.
<DBTS^COM> he want 150 Ec and i can tell only for 70ec for peace
<GT^DoFA> Reject it.
<DBTS^COM> if we say yes we could ask some techs?
<GT^DoFA> he's in no position to threaten us.
<DBTS^COM> reject? ok!
* Mania^DTC 1
<GT^DoFA> yes, reject.
* GT^DoFA 1
<DBTS^COM> he is quarrelsome and still at war
<DBTS^COM> and ending turn or are there any other orders?
<ATG02_DSE> No orders for now.
<DBTS^COM> so?
<DBTS^COM> ending turn now
<GT^DoFA> yes, end turn.
<ATG02_DSE> Quick poll: Should we go Wealth now, before the poll in the forum has closed?
<GT^DoFA> is that allowed?
* Mania^DTC Yes!
<DBTS^COM> TBIBTU build probe.....13 turn until ME.....5 turn to VW
<ATG02_DSE> I don't know. That's why I'm asking your opinions.
* DBTS^COM 3
<Lemmy^DEI> Probes!!!
* ATG02_DSE 2
<GT^DoFA> I don't think it's allowed... we use quickpolls when something comes up that we don't have time to poll.
<Lemmy^DEI> does wealth make a big difference in SE?
<Mania^DTC> We didn't have time to poll Wealth...
<GT^DoFA> Not huge, but it woulkd be a help in building SPs.
<ATG02_DSE> Okay, deadlock. I stick by my original statement and we stay with Survival for now.
<GT^DoFA> Maniac: We're in the process of doing it. It's not something that just popped up.
<ATG02_DSE> I think you're right, GT, but I wanted to see if the people here were strongly for going to Wealth now. If so, it was an error on my part for not polling earlier.
<Mania^DTC> In the future I'd like to propose the director immediately assumes power after election, because experience has proved the old directors don't poll anymore after the last chat of the month.
<GT^DoFA> I agree.
<Lemmy^DEI> wealth is clearly winning in the poll though
<ATG02_DSE> Makes sense. Would you like to write that as an amendment, or should I?
<DBTS^COM> ok new base is getting build and its named Terminal Dogma at loc (18.66)
<Lemmy^DEI> where is that?
<Mania^DTC> You may have the honour.
<DBTS^COM> do i have to go to wealth or not?
<ATG02_DSE> 'kay, thanks
<DBTS^COM> E of pandemonium
<Mania^DTC> "The Gieseler Amendment"
<Furniture> Terminal Dogma! 
<GT^DoFA> DBTS: no, don't go wealth.
*** Furniture is now known as Gendou_Ik
<Lemmy^DEI> DBTS: yes, go on wealth
<Lemmy^DEI> it's clearly winning in the poll
*** Gendou_Ik is now known as Gendou
<Mania^DTC> Oh are we voting on Wealth?? If so: yes!
<Lemmy^DEI> Adam?
* DBTS^COM 3
<ATG02_DSE> Stay with Survival.
<DBTS^COM> ok
<Lemmy^DEI> aight then
* GT^DoFA 3
<ATG02_DSE> Pol's not closed yet.
<DBTS^COM> am i ready to end turn
<DBTS^COM> talk to zak?
<GT^DoFA> Didn't we do that already?
<GT^DoFA> Or was that last turn?
<DBTS^COM> not this turn
<DBTS^COM> it 2183
<GT^DoFA> Do it, then.
<DBTS^COM> oh yes morgan has splicing talk or not?
<Mania^DTC> We'll only annoy him more by constantly calling.
<GT^DoFA> Yes.
<DBTS^COM> zak: 175 or 80 for peace?
<DBTS^COM> reject?
<GT^DoFA> reject.
<DBTS^COM> still war talking to morgan now
<GT^DoFA> Talk to Morgan, ask for Gene Splicing.
<DBTS^COM> he is obstinate too
<GT^DoFA> That's what comes of using planned.
<DBTS^COM> he give 40 for zaks comm...yes or no?
<GT^DoFA> damn... tough one.
<DBTS^COM> GT?
<GT^DoFA> I'm thinking.
<DBTS^COM> quickvote all vote now
* Mania^DTC 1
* ATG02_DSE 1
* DBTS^COM 2
<GT^DoFA> yes, quickpoll.
* Lemmy^DEI 1, maybe Zak declares on morgan too
* Joeno^AT 1
<DBTS^COM> ok doing it now
<GT^DoFA> good. do it.
<DBTS^COM> ind aut for gen splicing?
<DBTS^COM> or i can give doc: loy!
<GT^DoFA> can we offer anything else?
<DBTS^COM> doc: loy
<GT^DoFA> Id he building any SPs?
<DBTS^COM> yes ME
<DBTS^COM> not me as in me but as in ME
<DBTS^COM> :P
<Lemmy^DEI> lol
<DBTS^COM> so what to do?
<Lemmy^DEI>  ?
<GT^DoFA> Dos: Loy seems to good trade, I'm just thinking if we lose the CN.
<DBTS^COM> btw lemmy probe is on its way! 
<Lemmy^DEI> yay
<DBTS^COM> choice now GT
<GT^DoFA> If we switch the ME to CN, we'll grab it, but it hasn't been polled yet.
<GT^DoFA> do it.
<DBTS^COM> this is taking a bit long my cpu is going in to sleep mode :S
<Mania^DTC> lol
<GT^DoFA> we need that tech, and we can still grab the CN if we try.
<DBTS^COM> ok did it and ending turn or something else with morgan? he hasnt got any other techs
<DBTS^COM> we have it
<Mania^DTC> So he gave Gene for Doc:Loy?
<GT^DoFA> How long 'till the probe gets there?
<DBTS^COM> yes
<GT^DoFA> yes.
<DBTS^COM> a lot of turns is it comming from TBIBTU
<Lemmy^DEI> lot's of turns..
<GT^DoFA> okay, anything else?
<DBTS^COM> atleast 8 turns
<DBTS^COM> ending turn2183
<Lemmy^DEI> did we find the ruins yet?
<DBTS^COM> not yet
<DBTS^COM> i am in turn 2184 moving everthing
<Mania^DTC> Q: have you rehomed the scout in Terminal Dogma?
<DBTS^COM> yes
<Mania^DTC>
<DBTS^COM> i have moved everthing again and nothing special is happening talk to zak?
<GT^DoFA> when did we last do that?
<Lemmy^DEI> meh, he'll only raise the price to 180/90
<DBTS^COM> last turn
<Joeno^AT> That seems likely
<DBTS^COM> talk?
<GT^DoFA> don't talk, then. Give him a few turns to cool off.
<DBTS^COM> no talk?
<DBTS^COM> ok
<DBTS^COM> ending turn
<DBTS^COM> going to 2185
<DBTS^COM> UNPD build node nothing more happend may i move everthing or does anyone have any questions?
<ATG02_DSE> We're making Command Nexus in New Suez now?
<GT^DoFA> No, ME. I'd like to, tohugh.
<ATG02_DSE> Okay, I misunderstood.
<GT^DoFA> How do Morgan & Zak feel about us?
<Mania^DTC> Chats are boring when everyone has given orders. 
*** Gendou is now known as Zaks_Spy
* Lemmy^DEI slaps Zaks_Spy around a bit with a large trout
*** Zaks_Spy is now known as Zaks_Prob
*** Zaks_Prob is now known as ZaksProbe
<Lemmy^DEI> hehe, Zak can't probe 
<ZaksProbe> There.
<ZaksProbe> I know, that's why I suck at probing :P
<DBTS^COM> how to check that GT? wait one sec
<GT^DoFA> check the intell screens.
<ATG02_DSE> That is one good thing about the Vendetta. Zakh makes a tempting target for our fledgeling probe teams.
<ZaksProbe>
<GT^DoFA> Or he would, if we knew where he was.
<DBTS^COM> how to check how they like us
<GT^DoFA> check the faction info screens, from the commlink menu.
<Mania^DTC> rightclick on their names
<DBTS^COM> gt how?
<DBTS^COM> h ok
<DBTS^COM> zak: quarral and morgan: ambivilant
<DBTS^COM> talk?
<DBTS^COM> ending turn?
<GT^DoFA> Wait another turn on Zak. Morgan ha snothing to give us.
<DBTS^COM> nothing is happening sorry guys
<Mania^DTC> 2 & 1
<DBTS^COM> ok ending turn
<GT^DoFA> what year is it?
<Lemmy^DEI> 2002 silly
* ZaksProbe tries to take a log but has so bad probe rating he falls on his computer breaking it to pieces
<GT^DoFA> That's not funny, Lemmy.
<Lemmy^DEI>
<Lemmy^DEI> 2186 i think
<Mania^DTC> Lemmy
<DBTS^COM> it is now at the end of 2186
<ZaksProbe> Add a new charge? "Use of incredibly bad humour"
<Lemmy^DEI> tadaa
<GT^DoFA> Ok, thanks.
<ZaksProbe> 2186? I'm 200 yrs old
<Lemmy^DEI> lol
<DBTS^COM> so now talk to zak now?
<DBTS^COM> ha i am 202 years old
<GT^DoFA> Have you ended the turn? If so, yes.
<DBTS^COM> zak talk or not to talk thats the question
<Joeno^AT> 201, right in between
<DBTS^COM> ok next turn?
<GT^DoFA> have you ended the turn yet?
<Mania^DTC> Don't tell me I'm the oldest here?
<DBTS^COM> then i am ending turn now
<DBTS^COM> no not yet
<ATG02_DSE> I don't know, are you over 21?
<GT^DoFA> End turn, then talk.
<Mania^DTC> nope
<DBTS^COM> mania you are not the oldest here happy?
<DBTS^COM> ok
<Mania^DTC> yes
<ATG02_DSE> lol
<DBTS^COM> morgan build new base 
<Lemmy^DEI>
<GT^DoFA>
<DBTS^COM> 41.101
<GT^DoFA> Where is that relative to us?
<DBTS^COM> i am going to probe that one 
<GT^DoFA> :evel:
<GT^DoFA> 
<Lemmy^DEI> YES!!!
<DBTS^COM> his outborder is touching ours near NS
<GT^DoFA> Is it going to interfere with our base placements?
<DBTS^COM> I have a SC in TBIBTU where to put it and what to do with it?
<DBTS^COM> GT no
<Lemmy^DEI> SC...?
<ATG02_DSE> One square west of eastern coast, half a square south of the latitude of Mysidia
<DBTS^COM> supplycrawler thingy
<Lemmy^DEI> ow
<GT^DoFA> oh.
<GT^DoFA> did dmm give any orders about that?
<Mania^DTC> rehome it to NA, put it on the rocky minerals and switch the minerals worker on a forest?
<DBTS^COM> adam what?
<Mania^DTC> Or send it directly to NS?
<DBTS^COM> no he did do anything about them
<ATG02_DSE> That's where 41,101 is, as far as I can tell.
<ATG02_DSE> Might be wrong about the coast since I'm working from the 2175 map.
<DBTS^COM> i am a waiting your orders i will be abstain
<DBTS^COM> oh adam you are right
<Mania^DTC> Who his orders?
<DBTS^COM> but where to use the crawler from TBIBTU for?
<GT^DoFA> I say send it to NS to harvest tyhe minerals there.
<Mania^DTC> I held some poll about that in a far past...
<DBTS^COM> i need that before i can procede....oh yes build Deus Ex Machina in 4.102 west of ZG
<Mania^DTC> Should I dig in the directory?
<DBTS^COM> we could stop now but i still need to talk to zak going to do that now
<DBTS^COM> now just for this one we need an option
<GT^DoFA> yes, talk.
<DBTS^COM> he want 225
<DBTS^COM> no
<DBTS^COM> right?
<GT^DoFA> reject.
<DBTS^COM> ok
<GT^DoFA> looks like your military buildup might be of use after all.
<DBTS^COM> so what to do stop or give crawler orders?
<DBTS^COM> @GT
<Mania^DTC> Poll says rehome it to NA and send it to rocky minerals.
<Lemmy^DEI> crawler rehome at NA or NS and put on minerals
<Mania^DTC> Question remains: what rocky minerals?
<Mania^DTC> http://apolyton.net/forums/showthre...&threadid=65339
<GT^DoFA> I'd say NS, it needs them more.
<DBTS^COM> ok doing that then
<Lemmy^DEI> the rocky minerals N-NW of NS?
<DBTS^COM> NS or NA
<Mania^DTC> Quickpoll: rehome where? 1=NA 2=NS
* Lemmy^DEI 1
* GT^DoFA 2
<DBTS^COM> ok moved it and ending turn! next turn last turn?
<Mania^DTC> rocky minerals where? a=near NA b=the free near NS
<DBTS^COM> 2
<GT^DoFA> yes.
* Lemmy^DEI b
* Joeno^AT b
* GT^DoFA b
<Mania^DTC> b is clear apparently
<DBTS^COM> .
<Mania^DTC> remains 1 or 2
<DBTS^COM> ok
<DBTS^COM> 2
<DBTS^COM> ?
<GT^DoFA> Huh?
<DBTS^COM> ok
<Lemmy^DEI> 2 is fune
<DBTS^COM> i have moved it and i am ending turn
<Mania^DTC> GT?
<GT^DoFA> Yes?
<Lemmy^DEI> Maniac?
<DBTS^COM> ..........we..........have.......the......VW!
<GT^DoFA> what were you saying about 1 or 2?
<Lemmy^DEI> 
<DBTS^COM> .
<GT^DoFA>
<GT^DoFA> arty:
<DBTS^COM> .
<DBTS^COM> .
<Mania^DTC> quickpoll about the crawler
<GT^DoFA> weren't we using a/b?
<DBTS^COM> moving all units and ending session!
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