03-11-2002 06:08									#1
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Two Directors have come to me to request a change in our secret project at New Suez, so i put it before the people! Shall we keep going on the Mercahnt exchange, switch to the Planetary Transit System to accelerate our growth, or in light of the Vendetta pronounced on us by the University - change to the Command Nexus?

Some numbers:
Time to complete ME: 8 turns
Time to complete CN: 8 turns
Time to complete PTS: 19 turns

Vid-screen of our SP data is attached below

And our infiltraion indicates Morgan has 20 turns to go to complete the ME - no dta is known of our other competitors.

And the poll will run for 3 days as usual

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	03-11-2002 06:13									#2
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Command Nexus!

	03-11-2002 07:19									#3
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normally, i'd say PTS, but, being at war as we are, i'd go for the command nexus. great to deprive the hive of too. they're scary with it

	03-11-2002 08:01									#4
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I like the video for the Merchant Exchange.

	03-11-2002 08:10									#5
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but we don't get to see it. only DBTS does

	03-11-2002 08:32									#6
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New Suez has a great position. It has 2 min bonuses and access to Freshwater Sea. In the future it could be neat place for both production (think of changing these bonus tiles into boreholes), and energy output (nice quantity of Tidal Harnesses on water). That base just cries out to have Supercollider, Theory of Everything, Longevity Vaccine and, last but not least...

...Merchant Exchange!

	03-11-2002 11:05									#7
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Being able to grab the ME would be nice, but the CN is way more important.

	03-11-2002 17:08									#8
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GT, I don't agree. Here's why:

As Kirov pointed out, Panama^H^H^H^H^H^H New Suez is ideally located to be our SSC. The ME is the first step on that long-term effort. It can safely trawl energy from all of the freshwater sea that don't fall into coastal city radii - that's gonne be HUGE.

Now, CN is nice, but we don't really need it for this war. Most of the action is going to happen through probes - and our friend Zak sucks on probes anyway. As for the rest - lets recall this isn't Transcend - Zak won't be pumping units out like it was nobody's business.

Yang, finally, is welcome to his CN if we get a SSC going. He can try to match his brainwashed scouts to our shard rovers anyday!

	04-11-2002 03:37									#9
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quote: As Kirov pointed out, Panama^H^H^H^H^H^H New Suez is ideally located to be our SSC. The ME is the first step on that long-term effort. It can safely trawl energy from all of the freshwater sea that don't fall into coastal city radii - that's gonne be HUGE.

Wouldn't it be more efficient to build bases in it and let them work it, rather than spending masses of minerals on trawlers?

quote: Now, CN is nice, but we don't really need it for this war. Most of the action is going to happen through probes - and our friend Zak sucks on probes anyway.

Not if we go ahead with plans to mind control 1 or 2 of his bases - then we will need a morale edge over his troops.

quote: As for the rest - lets recall this isn't Transcend - Zak won't be pumping units out like it was nobody's business.

All the better.

quote: Yang, finally, is welcome to his CN if we get a SSC going. He can try to match his brainwashed scouts to our shard rovers anyday!

By the time we can get a SSC up and running, with all the necessary SPs and facilities, it probably won't matter if Yang has the CN or not. We'll have our tech lead over him or we won't, regardless of whether we have a SSC or not, and in the meantime the CN will give Yang a significant edge over us or whoever is unfortunate enough to be located on his continent.

	04-11-2002 04:17									#10
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I voted for Command Nexus, but belive we could get both by builindg the ME at New Suez as well as using the AA at New Apolyton to hurry the Command Nexus there.

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	04-11-2002 04:19									#11
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While we could have deduced the stuff you mentioned about Morgan quite easily, I'm afraid that it does seem to be considered playing ahead, so please edit your post and remove it. The rest of the stuff is fine.

	04-11-2002 04:27									#12
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While I agree with Kirov about the New Suez being a great energy base, io think the CN is more important, the morale bonus is simply too good to ignore so i say.... go CN!

	04-11-2002 04:59									#13
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CN cancels out Wealth Penality :=)

	04-11-2002 08:53									#14
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quote: CN cancels out Wealth Penality :=)

Actually it doesn't, Wealth halves all Morale bonuses in addition to reducing levels by 2.

	04-11-2002 21:19									#15
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But the CN lessens the overall morale effect of wealth without having to build loads of command centers. The sooner we can effect that SE switch, the sooner we benefit from extra energy, quicker production, and increased goodwill of our nearest neighbor. The complete package of benefits is worth more now than the extra energy afforded by the ME.

And we can always go build the PTS later, since no one else is currently trying. However, we need to get some crawlers ready to hasten its completion it once we complete VW and CN - since others may switch right to it when deprived of these two . . .

	04-11-2002 21:25									#16
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until Sea and AirUnits come i wanted to add.
@GT: If you say so. In my Games most Units are in bases which CCreches when im running wealth and those units outside started as prototypes.


Sidenote: is Childrens Creche CC or is Command Center CC ??

	05-11-2002 06:10									#17
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quote: @GT: If you say so. In my Games most Units are in bases which CCreches when im running wealth and those units outside started as prototypes.

You never mentioned Creches before. They change the whole equation.

	05-11-2002 18:55									#18
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quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus You never mentioned Creches before. They change the whole equation.

But we definitely need to consider getting some creches in place, seeing how we are Demo/ Planned. TAke advantage of out ability to pop-boom before we go to FM.

	06-11-2002 00:28									#19
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Whoopsidaisy :=)
so i see not even the Essential Infrastructure is in Place..
What did you guys do alle the Time
J/K
I alwas thought Planned+Demo is like a ForceToBuildChreches Order :=P

Which one is abbreviated CC now?