03-11-2002 21:26									#1
	Is anyone here a Jehovah's Witness? Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

I'm doing an ethnography paper for my Anthro class on JWs, and I need to start a dialogue with someone. If anyone is, or can point me in the direction of one, that'd be great.

	03-11-2002 22:13									#2
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Pray for one to knock on your door.

I live about 10 minutes walk from a JW church, yet have never had one knock on the door.

	03-11-2002 22:25									#3
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Same with me in the city I used to live in...

...makes me wonder...

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	03-11-2002 22:55									#4
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Well I come from a Roman Catholic family...but my Uncle (on my mother's side) is a Jehovah's Witness - he married into it....strange man...actually, his entire family is rather odd. I haven't spoken or seen him or his family in over 25 years...

Oh well, I guess this doesn't really help you Fabulous...

	03-11-2002 22:57									#5
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Why not just go to one of their churches? I'm sure they'd be willing to talk with you all day long.

	03-11-2002 23:07									#6
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I had some living next door when I was a kid. They came all the time-- every Saturday I think. The other day one approached me at Taco Bell and gave me some pamphlets. Sorry I didn't keep them.

I agree with Che-- you should seek contact. They'll be responsive, I'm sure.

	03-11-2002 23:48									#7
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If anyone was, believe me, you'd know.

	04-11-2002 03:18									#8
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I actually attended a Jehovah's Witness sermon one time (they called it something else like a meeting or something). The sermon was about how a college education is a bad thing. The guy said that young people should stay close to their families and the church lest they be corrupted by the horrible influences in the world. Given this philosophy, I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that probably not to many Jehovah's Witnesses use the Internet and even if they do, Apolyton is definately one of those corrupting influences the guy was talking about.

	04-11-2002 07:22									#9
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I've been meaning to attend a JW service, just for the educational merit.

Plus, I would love to debate those people.

	04-11-2002 09:22									#10
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Don't go to their church to debate them. That's really low class.






Go to their houses.

	04-11-2002 09:42									#11
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I pass a Jehovah Witness "Hall" on the way to and from school everyday. That doesn't really help you though.

	04-11-2002 10:11									#12
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quote: Originally posted by BustaMike Apolyton is definately one of those corrupting influences the guy was talking about.

cool

Let's all throw a big corruption party here!

	04-11-2002 10:22									#13
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Apolyton is more aethiest and agnostic than most places I've been.

	04-11-2002 13:41									#14
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous Don't go to their church to debate them. That's really low class.

Only on Saturday morning though.

	04-11-2002 15:47									#15
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It's not worth trying to debate them. Any argument based on "the bible says so" is a logical fallacy, but that's all you ever hear. Jesus says this, the bible says that.

Just remember. Satan put dinosaur fossils in the ground to trick man into betraying God, hehe.

	04-11-2002 16:42									#16
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Tell em your Jewish, that stops them in their tracks

	04-11-2002 17:03									#17
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I think JW are not allowed to use the internet.
Thus even if one of us is a JW, he will not admit it.

quote: Any argument based on "the bible says so" is a logical fallacy, but that's all you ever hear. Jesus says this, the bible says that.

They have another bible, ours is corupted
They guys / gals that ring your bell most of the time know only the most common answers to the most common questions. You can confuse them by asking more complex questions. They will be confused, go away, and next week a JW from a higher degree will ring your bell.

	04-11-2002 17:11									#18
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I converted yestwerday and gave up my sinful ways.

	04-11-2002 17:30									#19
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quote: I converted yestwerday and gave up my sinful ways.

so, why are you sinning again right now, being online?

	04-11-2002 17:36									#20
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy quote: I converted yestwerday and gave up my sinful ways. so, why are you sinning again right now, being online?

Because I am your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.


(I'm supposed to be doing an essay on Hungary 1956 but I'm very bored )

	04-11-2002 18:21									#21
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quote: Because I am your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

we have a cute place in the city where I live where more people are saying the same, I'm sure you'll be very welcome there! There are nice people in white coats! It's cool, check it out!

BONUS: you will never ever have to finish your essay!
Is that cool or what?

	04-11-2002 18:51									#22
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That reminds me that today 2 JW tried to address me by ringing the door bell. Well, of course I didn't open, but they seem to be regulars. When I'm at home, I usually open the door and take their damn leaflets (usually just Watch Tower), but occasionally even read partially those publications as they're so hilarious with that brainwashing propaganda. Anyway; I'm not a Jehovah's witness, but one of my second cousins is, so I know that not all of them are complete psychos. So far I haven't noticed any difference when it comes to her.

	04-11-2002 19:41									#23
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There was one of their halls in my old home town, on a sharp bend at the foot of a steep hill. Any driver with brake failure would have entered it at about 50 mph. No sane person would have put a building there at all. I guess they thought they were under God's protection.

I haven't checked lately to see if it's still there.

	04-11-2002 21:13									#24
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy quote: Because I am your Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. we have a cute place in the city where I live where more people are saying the same, I'm sure you'll be very welcome there! There are nice people in white coats! It's cool, check it out! BONUS: you will never ever have to finish your essay! Is that cool or what?

Wow! But I could never live amongst so many imposters. After all I did die for their sins.

	04-11-2002 22:51									#25
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What I dislike the most about JW is that they wish everyone else dead so they can possess the entire Earth.

	04-11-2002 23:40									#26
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quote: Wow! But I could never live amongst so many imposters. After all I did die for their sins.

If you love them that much, that you even die for their sins, I'm sure you would be happy to go down to their place and live among them. A true Jesus would really do that.

	04-11-2002 23:52									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Lord Merciless What I dislike the most about JW is that they wish everyone else dead so they can possess the entire Earth.

They accept that people will die. They don't wish for it to happen, and many put in quite a few volunteer hours to warn people.

	04-11-2002 23:54									#28
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quote: Originally posted by The Emperor Fabulous I'm doing an ethnography paper for my Anthro class on JWs, and I need to start a dialogue with someone. If anyone is, or can point me in the direction of one, that'd be great.

I studied with them for a while. I could help you with matters of doctrine and history. However, I never joined.

	04-11-2002 23:59									#29
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy I think JW are not allowed to use the internet. Thus even if one of us is a JW, he will not admit it.

They are warned, and you could even call it discouraged, but not forbidden.

quote: quote: Any argument based on "the bible says so" is a logical fallacy, but that's all you ever hear. Jesus says this, the bible says that. They have another bible, ours is corupted

They have the same Bible, and have made a translation that they feel better reflects the doctrine of the original texts. They use many translations besides their own.

quote: They guys / gals that ring your bell most of the time know only the most common answers to the most common questions. You can confuse them by asking more complex questions. They will be confused, go away, and next week a JW from a higher degree will ring your bell.

Often, more experience and knowledge will mean a "higher degree", but not always. The will bring/send someone more knowledgable and experienced, if they feel the questioning is sincere as opposed to hostile.

	05-11-2002 00:58									#30
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quote: Originally posted by CyberShy quote: Wow! But I could never live amongst so many imposters. After all I did die for their sins. If you love them that much, that you even die for their sins, I'm sure you would be happy to go down to their place and live among them. A true Jesus would really do that.

Yeah, that was before I got my cool superpowers. Now they can burn in hell.