05-11-2002 00:10									#31
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Hey, I'll take it where I can get it!

	05-11-2002 00:24									#33
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Well, what's the first Greek to be sent to space gonna be called?

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	05-11-2002 01:09									#34
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The difference between cosmonauts and astronaugts is that astronauts get paid regularly.

	05-11-2002 01:30									#35
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Well, I think (or I hope) that Greece is now a full member of the European Space Agency. It wasn't before because the cheap Greek state didn't want to pay the "subscription fees" thus denying young Greeks of their right to dream and forcing them out of Greece and Europe to NASA.

I think a Greek (by now Greek American) has already gone to space but I'm not 100% sure.

We call them Astronauts (Astronautes) BTW although Cosmonauts is also used but not frequently.

Even though, etymologically Cosmonaut is more accurate.

They go to space, and even if they go to the moon, they go to a planet not a star.

	05-11-2002 02:05									#36
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quote: Everything is a ripoff from Greek

We're still waiting for the royalties on that alphabete you "borrowed", paiktis.

	05-11-2002 02:44									#37
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Double post...

	05-11-2002 02:45									#38
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It's a Belgian in space...

	05-11-2002 02:48									#39
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I should have said Beneluxer. Sorry.

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Or Dutch-speaking person. Then 1.5 countries are happy.

	05-11-2002 02:53									#41
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Colon and the chocolate brigade are gonna kill me if he sees this.

	05-11-2002 03:41									#42
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Astro(n) in Greek means star.

What does stella mean? Or is it just a name.

I know stellar (as in star) is taken from latin, but there is also a greek word/name stella. Isn't there?

	05-11-2002 03:50									#43
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Apart from a Belgian lager?

	05-11-2002 04:09									#44
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@ this thread.

The difference between cosmonauts and astronauts is first and foremost that cosmonauts were first in space. Therefore, using the drug terminology, it is 'cosmonaut' that is the brand name for spacemen; whereas 'astronaut', 'taikonaut' and whatever-else-may-appear are merely generic names, which should not be taken too seriously unless for political reasons, which is actually the case.

	05-11-2002 04:12									#45
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Cosmonauts launch out of Baikonur. Astronauts from Cape Canaveral. IMHO, the people paying for the launch should be able to call them whatever they feel like.

	05-11-2002 04:19									#46
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Too much confusion, Groucho. We pay the Russians to launch from Baikonour, with a mixed astronaut/cosmonaut crew. The Russians don't want to rent Baikonour anymore, so now they're moving operations to Russia proper.

I have to admit that "cosmodrome" really rolls off the tongue. Much better than "spaceport", even though there's an economy of syllables.

"which should not be taken too seriously unless for political reasons, which is actually the case"

Vagabond: It's amazing how many tens of billions of dollars has been spent just so we could say "astronaut" as opposed to "cosmonaut".

	05-11-2002 04:28									#47
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quote: Originally posted by DanS I became curious about this because the Dutch spaceman sent to the Space Station was called an astronaut whereas his Russian co-worker was called a cosmonaut.

Not surprisingly, for political reasons, the Dutch chose to defy the logic and to use 'astronaut' for their spacemen. They wouldn't want to upset their allies, would they?

	05-11-2002 04:38									#48
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DanS, if the criterion is not the priority but rather the amount of dollars spent, then perhaps 'astronaut' wins over 'cosmonaut'.

	05-11-2002 04:49									#49
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By the way, big thanks to the Greeks for all these neat words.

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Wasn't that French guy, IIRC Jean-Loup Chrétien, called spationaut. That would be yet another word for the same thing.

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Space cowboys is my favourite term.

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Sir Ralph: So true.

And it's just like the French too. Create a new term without creating a manned spaceflight program for themselves. Trying to get in on the cheap.

Edit: But then it appears that "spationauts" also refers sometimes to Italians as well?

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quote: Originally posted by Lefty Scaevola The difference between cosmonauts and astronaugts is that astronauts get paid regularly.

Mistake... Astronauts should pay about 20 000 000 $ to Russians launch them on orbit. Cosmonauts have free tickets.

	05-11-2002 13:13									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Ade So, what does "Taikonaut" (the Chinese...) mean?

Erm...'take-out'-naut?

	05-11-2002 14:59									#55
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quote: Originally posted by paiktis22 Here's an explanation however.

There are idiots everywhere.

	05-11-2002 21:43									#56
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quote: Originally posted by Sagacious Dolphin What does stella mean? Or is it just a name. I know stellar (as in star) is taken from latin, but there is also a greek word/name stella. Isn't there?

Yes there is. That's my girlfriend's name actually

However I don't know its etymology and I don't think it comes from Greek althoug I'm not sure. I think it's Latin-born. (One of the few latin words that have not their origins in Greek but were created later on, autonomously).

	05-11-2002 21:49									#57
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I'm amazed that everybody is giving the Greeks credit for all of this.

We all know that the origin is some ancient Indo-European language. "naut" being derived from "nau", meaning "boat".

	05-11-2002 21:54									#58
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Well since they are Greek words, it is only appropriate.

Cosmodrome comes from Cosmos and Dromos which means road BTW.


Did some search about Stella and it does come from Latin for Star.

	05-11-2002 23:31									#59
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quote: Originally posted by DanS I'm amazed that everybody is giving the Greeks credit for all of this. We all know that the origin is some ancient Indo-European language. "naut" being derived from "nau", meaning "boat".

Which possibly came from "na", a form of grunt to indicate one of the pre-hominid-apes had found water. How far back do you wanna go?

	05-11-2002 23:37									#60
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Pre-hominid apes is far back enough.