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Should the barbarians setting be random? (7 days)
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Yes, it should be random 23 51.11%
No, we should specify 22 48.89%
Total: 45 voters 100%
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Trip is offline Trip
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Apr 2002
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Random or not? 7 days.

Arnelos is offline Arnelos
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Sep 2002
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Raging Hordes... I love to choose raging hordes.

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Bring on the raging hordes of @ssholes!

Trip is offline Trip
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As always, I'm all for random.
They didn't get to pick in real life, why should we?

GodKing is offline GodKing
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Feb 2002
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Random or raging hords

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Make it random...Makes for a more interesting game. It forces people to have to discover what kind of map/how may barbs there are etc.

alva is offline alva
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Sep 2001
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and we are playing at what level ?
(makes quite a difference in regard to Barb bonusses)

Sir Ralph is offline Sir Ralph
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Dec 2001
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Fixed at raging hords.

Trip is offline Trip
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This poll ain't done yet either.

mrmitchell is offline mrmitchell
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Make sure to vote. Your vote counts.

I voted to pick the Barb level. I just love it when those raging hordes bump up against my Spear and give me elites...

Oh, yeah, that's right-the PtW barbs are smarter than a brick. Well, I stil voted pick.

jordie is offline jordie
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Mar 2002
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No, we should specify... but i'm starting to change my mind, too bad I can't change my vote now. (At time of my post it's 50/50 20 votes each.)

Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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Nov 2001
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Oh, yeah, that's right-the PtW barbs are smarter than a brick.

Do they ? What's different ?

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They don't mindlessly attack your units; if they come across a stronger unit they may run off and go after less-defended targets. And I'm all for random.

Trip is offline Trip
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Yep, they don't always attack whenever they see something to attack. Usually they're meander about until they find an improvement to destroy, trash it, then attack, etc. Gets pretty annoying when I neglect to build Archers early on.

Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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Wow, 21 to 21...
Reminds me of some election in the SPDG

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Is Random Barbs the final choice then?

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FP : yes.

alva is offline alva
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Shouldn't we at least have a majority of 2 or 3???

If just one person made a mistake, you get the opposite result!!

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Shhhhhh Alva, don't say such things, or Trip will hit you

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He won't mind doing a new one, with aaaaaaaaaaaall the possible options this time

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Though polls are a good +1(0), they're not really worth the effort it takes to put them up.

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Random won; we might as well go with it. Who cares how close it is?

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This poll doesn't solve one thing however : Some here like to take on hordes of barbarians, while others do not. But none of the voters have a choice if they voted random, because essentially the wording is not right. By setting it to random it could end up with ALL barbarians or NO barbarians.

It did not specify if A) We want barbarians or not , or B) If we DO want Barbarians, then what is their frequency?

Obviously if a majority didn't want Barbarians AT ALL, then the second question of how often they occur is mute. But that didn't happen here, there was no choice given. It seemed like it, but was not.

this poll essentially is killing two birds with one stone, but maybe one of the birds should have been kept alive or killed with an entirely different stone.

This isn't to cause hysteria or grab attention, but I think this is a fact that has been overlooked and requires our attention immediately.

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Though polls are a good +1(0), they're not really worth the effort it takes to put them up.


Anything to get to deity

Trip is offline Trip
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This poll doesn't solve one thing however : Some here like to take on hordes of barbarians, while others do not. But none of the voters have a choice if they voted random, because essentially the wording is not right. By setting it to random it could end up with ALL barbarians or NO barbarians.

It did not specify if A) We want barbarians or not , or B) If we DO want Barbarians, then what is their frequency?

Obviously if a majority didn't want Barbarians AT ALL, then the second question of how often they occur is mute. But that didn't happen here, there was no choice given. It seemed like it, but was not.

this poll essentially is killing two birds with one stone, but maybe one of the birds should have been kept alive or killed with an entirely different stone.

This isn't to cause hysteria or grab attention, but I think this is a fact that has been overlooked and requires our attention immediately.

I disagree.

The two options were to have barbarians random, or to specify. No barbarians were part of specifying... Specifying none.

mrmitchell is offline mrmitchell
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in the 2000 presidential elections the popular vote difference was less than one percent, 200,000 nationwide votes
just wanted to bring that up, that however close it is, even the thinnest of majorities wins (or, okay, here to be like the 2000 election Pick would have to be used, hey, that just reminded me of Bush picking his nose )
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However, no one wants to bring that dead horse up (again) so I'll just close with this summary:

The thinnest of a majority is still a majority. Trip should include in all his polls a reminder that "50% + 1 vote" is a majority.

alva is offline alva
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ok, this can be fun, so I'll bite

you do have a point Trip, but so does Meshelic

the first poll maybe should have been

Barbs-yes and
barbs- no
and then go on to the next phase

just to establish the fact wether we should have barbs or not.

Spiffor is offline Spiffor
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For one, I agree with Trip (even if I was in favor of specifying) : those who wanted no barbs at all should have voted specify. I assume the randomizers only want the thrill not to know beforehand.

alva is offline alva
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I assume most people who choose random, voted for random barb activity, not to possibility of having no barbs

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Correct... that would be defeating their purpose.

 
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