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Torino, Italian Wine Capital
May 2002
time: 06:23
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To UN:
We request your approval on behalf of the European Community in sending military and humanitarian aids in Spain, in order for Spain to be able to rise as a strong Democratic state.
To EC:
We are about to send half of our airforce and army to Spain, and 1/3 of our Navy.
Although because of internal disagreements we can not do anything without UN approval.
We only managed to send some financial aids to the Democratic factions there.
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Italian Economic Status:
The Italian Economy is poor but raising very fast, thanks to the help from the UN and her allies.
The strongest industry are:
Aereospace industry, covering for 38% of GNP
main factories are: FIAT, Alena, ISA and Alitalia
Car industry, covering for 30% of GNP
main factories are: FIAT, Lancia, Alfa Romeo, Innocenti, Lamborghini, Ferrari, Maserati
Naval Canteer, covering for 15% of GNP, all factories here are national factories.
House building, covering for 8% of GNP, this industry is mande up of big numbers of medium-size industries.
Agricolture, covering for 7% of GNO, especially in Southern Italy and the islands.
Other minor industries, covering for 2%
What Italy need is:
Steel, Petrol, there is also a raising demand for Electricity, as new industries are opening in very short time, and the city and population are booming.
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Italian Projects.
Massive Rebuilding: 7 years
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Italy-Stats
Name: Italian Repubblic
Government: Constitutional Democracy (based on French and US ones)
President of the Repubblic: Enrico de Nicola (no political party)
President of the Cabinet: Luigi Einaudi (Christian Democrats)
Economy: weak but quickly improving
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: Medium
Member of: UN, EC
Alliances: France, Britain
NAP: Australia
Saluti
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IceEye
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Stockholm, Sweden
Jun 2002
time: 06:23
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ooc: how realistic is it that ussr would care about britain
who owns CAR and MAR
I am shocked that Britain just threatened me with nuclear weapons! As a response to this the nuclear and miltary research program started by Australia. Japan sends her best scientists and much money into this program.
To: Australia
From: Japan
I suggest a MPP
To: Britain
From: Japan
We are shocked but will not care about your threats. Sell us(Australia and Japan) Hongkong and Singapore. They rightfully belong to us.
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To Austrilla (secret):
We want to help you in developing nuclear weapons and if your government were a communist one we would be open to an mmp with your nation.
To Japan(secret):
Seing how the west is treating your nation we can still be friends, allthough we still do not want to sell any territories to you. We can also help you in devoloping nuclear weapons to prevent Britain from using them on you.
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To Mexico(secret):
Do to the internation pressure I think it would be best if you pulled out of Cuba. We are currently supporting communist rebels there, and suggest you use more covert means to get cuba to side with you.
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mmtt
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Damn I wrote a whole long thing and when I sent it, it came with an error....
Well quick thing
TO Britain: Maybe a referendum in Singapore and Hong-Kong would be wiser?
France wants quick reply of USSR for Spain intervention. If no veto, European Community will move in to protect democracy and to restablish a peaceful democratic state.
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Nuclear Weapon Research: 8 years
Rebuilding: 6 years
Canal Rhine-Rhone studied
New Airport at Paris
Increase of Army budget.
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Darkness' Edge
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Foreign Affairs
To the EC: Britain must regrettably pull out of any military force sent to Cuba and Spain, due to the threat of war in the Pacific. If some assistance is sent on the Pacific front, we may be able to contribute to the Cuban and Spanish forces.
To Australia: Britain will not give in to threats.
To Italy and France: Depending on the moderator, we may allow talks on the future of Singapore and Hong Kong. We would like to hear more of this proposal. Be prepared that we are not likely to make many concessions, due to the recent threats of force against us from nations in the region.
To Japan: We have no interest in selling you, or Australia, Singapore and Hong Kong. Britain needs its bases in the Pacific, and nothing has illustrated this more clearly than your recent threats - and as such, we will never tolerate Australian or Japanese control over Singapore and Hong Kong.
Military
Britain is deploying a considerable portion of its navy, army and airforce into the Pacific region, increasing presences of all three at Hong Kong and Singapore, and moving several SAS divisions into the vicinity. Britain is also increasing the military budget significantly.
Last edited by Darkness' Edge on 08-11-2002 at 07:17
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Easthaven I
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General Pancho Villa halts Operation Cubano. Orders transports in the Yucatan Channel to return to Mexican shores.
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Labels this invasion force as the Aztecas. He orders them to stand down and remain in Cancun, Mexico. There they will be on alert and ready to move in on a moments notice.
*SECRET*
*SECRET*
Gen. Pancho Villa orders the MIA to begin operations in Havanna, Cuba as well as other areas in the small country.
Gen. Pancho Villa also orders his first special ops units who he names 'Los Gatos Negroes' or the Black Cats into Cuba (covertly)to train communist forces.
*SECRET*
General Pancho Villa signs off on the creation of more financial programs to help the economy as well as educational programs to ensure all children recieve an education. He also increases trade with Brazil.
Because of the power ripped away from the mafia and the government being uncorrupt as well as the leadership capability of Pancho Villa, the Mexican nation is becoming very successful, this nation has made the most progress it has ever made in Mexican history.
TO EC: We must inform you that if its wrong for us to send military aid to Cuba then it is also wrong for you to intervene militarily in Spanish affairs. We condemn any military actions you partake in the Spanish civil war.
Also, if you send any sort of military forces into Cuba we will be obligated to liberate the Cuban island from the European invaders, with necessary measures.
To USSR: We will heed your advise and will halt Operation Cubano.
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1st major Russian aid arrives.
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Navy Upgrade from small to medium: 4 years
Air force from small to medium: 6years
Projects:
Industry ACT: 9 years
Santa Anna-class Battleship: 6 years, because of Russian help. 3 battleships estimated to being built 4 years after the first, hopefully.
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Economy: weak but gaining strength
Army: Large
Navy: small
Air force: small
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Darkness' Edge
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OOC: We really need someone to control America. As it is, it's a little ridiculous, with the communist bloc versus the neutral Europeans, and no capitalist voice, in what is really a Cold War scenario.
To Mexico: Britain thanks you for ending your operation in Cuba.
To Australia: Once again, Britain will not be cowed. Not to mention that an Australian embargo will have little effect on our economy. We fail to see how your mention of Australian troops defending Singapore is relevant, seeing as you have recently been threatening to invade there. Any movement of Australian/Japanese troops to within a 100km radius of Singapore or Hong Kong will meet the full force of the British military.
To the EC: We request assistance with Australia, as we have recently been embargoed. We request that the nations of the EC support us, and support a joint embargo against Australia.
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To France:
We will not support an invasion of Spain, as you do not seem to do the same for other nations. When someone wants to establish a communist government you are opposed, but when someone wants to put in a government that is a mere pond of your nation you are in favor. We do not think your corrupt from of government would be best for Spain.
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To Australia(secret):
We will give you the same advice we gave Mexico. Do not attack the British, for it will most likely be followed with nuclear weapons. We suggest a more covert moves. I must also remind you that Hong Kong will revert back to Chinese controll in 1999, when the British lease on Hong Kong ends(if this is not in effect in the story i will edit the post and take it out). As for Singapore, we suggest support the communist rebels there and fighting the British indirectly.
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Giovanni Wine
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Torino, Italian Wine Capital
May 2002
time: 06:23
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To France, Britain:
We need at least to send financial aids to the Democratic factions in Spain, and let's hope for the best
To France, Britain (secret):
I believe that USSR will support our intervention in Spain, if we let them intervene in Cuba.
Maybe we should, since Spain is vital for us, otherwise we will be in between two communist country, and it will be hard to defend against both.
To Australia:
Stop your embargo against Britain NOW, as it does nothing but to enrage our British friend.
If you do not, we will be forced to move in order to help our allies.
To Britain, Australia:
For the last time, please stop this.
from this small conflict you might start another world war, and this time it will be done with H-Bombs.
Please think of your children, sit on a table and discuss, like normal people should.
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Italian Projects.
Massive Rebuilding: 6 years
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Italy-Stats
Name: Italian Repubblic
Government: Constitutional Democracy (based on French and US ones)
President of the Repubblic: Enrico de Nicola (no political party)
President of the Cabinet: Luigi Einaudi (Christian Democrats)
Economy: medium and quickly improving
Army: Small
Navy: Small
Air Force: Medium
Member of: UN, EC
Alliances: France, Britain
NAP: Australia
Saluti
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Darkness' Edge
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Foreign Affairs
To France, Italy: Britain agrees that we should send financial assistance to the Spanish democratic factions, and pledges its assistance. We also thank you for your support in dealing with Australia.
To France, Italy (secret): Britain would find Italy's proposal acceptable. It would be worth seeing Cuba go communist if Spain could be assisted to become democratic again.
On the Pacific saga: As a compromise, Britain would be prepared to see Hong Kong become an international city, permanently controlled by the United Nations, for the use of all nations. We will, however, not move on our presence in Singapore, as that is vital to our national security interests. We will likely go to war if we have to defend Singapore.
Military
Britain moves seven warships into the waters surrounding Singapore, in defiance of Australian threats, and readies the SAS and airforce for possible initial action.
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IceEye
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Stockholm, Sweden
Jun 2002
time: 06:23
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Give Japan control of Hongkong instead!
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Darkness' Edge
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To Japan: Japanese sovereignty is not on offer here. Britain is offering to make Hong Kong an international city, and that is all. Take it or leave it.
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mmtt
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To USSR: Our intervention in Spain is in no way an occupation and EC troops will pull back immediately after the war. But we may come to an arrangement after USA reply. France and European Community is neutral toward USSR and USA.
I think you can have Mexico occupy Cuba if you stop your relation with Australia.
To EC(secret): Well France is already sending financial aids and weapon. Some special units are training the democrats. Also, the King of Spain residing in France, has given support to Democrats. USA support is also expected.
(ooc: sorry as you didn't comment King reaction).
Italy, you can now get some French steel. A canal is being built between Rhine and Rhone and will be done in 3 years. When it will be done, I'm sure Italy will have enough steel.
France is also interested in a common research on jetplanes. We think some commercial jetplanes could be really effective. Your aerospace industry could help us in this way. We are also starting a research in computer(10 years). This is a new technology we are very interested in.
Australia: EC Community have stopped any contact with you and we have now an embargo against you.
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OOC: I agree we need someone in US. Right now it's unbalanced as Japan and Australia should have a very weak industry and economy without USA help. As USSR is communist and right now Australia and Japan aren't, they shouldn't get any USSR help.
Also as I think, Australian and Japan governments are democratic I'm not sure the actual government should be inclined toward USSR. I don't really like irrealistic position even if it's allow the story to go on. SKILORD please be more present to state if it should follow a rigid or free policy.
I also would like a realistic research rate. USSR research in nuclear weapon had already started in 1920s... They just got it in 1948.
EDITED OOC.
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Darkness' Edge
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OOC: I'm not so worried by the alternate realities here. I think it'd get pretty boring if we stuck too close to history. The only thing that might be stretching a bit too far is Japan's militarism so soon after their nuking and surrender. But we do desperately need an America...does anyone know of anyone who's interested? I also don't think this is dying...it seems to be going along quite well, and we don't seem to have anyone dropping off. With the "I want this and if you don't give, we go to war", I think that's just the way this particular one is turning out. A game always needs its bad guys.
To USSR: As part of the EC, we echo France's statements.
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Giovanni Wine
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Torino, Italian Wine Capital
May 2002
time: 06:23
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To Australia:
As one of the founding members of the EC I will cancel my NAP with you, and we will be forced to embargo your country.
Although we will lift it immeidatly if you lift your embargo against Britain, and if you accept to sit with us Britain and Japan to a table to talk like civil people about the issue.
To France:
We will welcome your joint project for jetplanes and your steel.
Finally our industry have enough steel to produce at a full rate, this will help our economy greatly.
We also would like to propose your government the joint project of building a tunnel across the Mont Blanc, and maybe enlarging the already existing one under the Frejus, this will help trade between our nation greatly.
And will also give a lot of work to the large unenployed population here.
(OOC: My father always tell me of when de Gaulle came to Turin to talk about the tunnel and that he managed to talk with him (in French) too)
To Japan:
You have no rights over the city of Hong Kong, if one should claim it, that should be the Chinese government, not yours.
You have no claims over that city, and taking it would just be seen as another Imperialist act done by your gov't.
Saluti
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mmtt
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To Italy: Great ideas to increase our relationship and trades. A possible train tunnel could be also interesting. Trains transporting trucks would be less expensive.
"The solid alliance rising between Italy and France is the symbol of an union between war adversaries. It should be an exemple for every nations of the world. We need a new era of peace and development. We should share our knowledge and work together to build a new Europe. This tunnel who shall soon be built will be a new link, a bridge, between our two nations. In a few years, after rebuilding our countries, France and Italy, I'm certain, will be among the most powerful nations of the world."
(ooc: this isn't De Gaulle speech, just something wrote in 5 minutes)
To EC:
A common army, a common money and a common parliament could be the next step of this alliance. I'm also for EC institutions. The parliament shall be able to vote war, laws in effect for every member and be elected by whole people. I think this could be done in 10 years.
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Darkness' Edge
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To Italy: We like the idea, and will support it all the way.
OOC: I'm just looking at the forum that guy posted. Some interesting ideas...
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Easthaven I
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*SECRET*
MIA increases its size. They send spies to Panama to invoke the idea of Independence from America. They also send an assassin to kill the corrupt leader of Cuba.
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To EC(secret):
We will accept EC influence over Spain if you accept Mexican influence over Cuba. We will also try our best to talk Austrail down from its position and if war occurs we will not join the war on the side of Austrail.
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