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What difficulty level should the game be played at? (7 days)
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Deity 7 16.67%
Emperor 11 26.19%
Monarch 18 42.86%
Regent 6 14.29%
Warlord 0 0%
Chieftan 0 0%
Total: 42 voters 100%
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Trip is offline Trip
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The difficulty will affect a variety of things in the game, but mostly the AI. So the question is what difficulty level should we play at?

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I say Emperor, because that gives the AI enough bite, but not allow it to be the focus of the game.

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is this normal level, or AI (editor) level???

As a person who mods quite often, you will probably understand what i'm taking about here.

Sometimes it does get confusing, doesn't it. Even the simplest things as a game level

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AI difficulty level.

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deity: makes it's more aggresive (it will need more lux to keeps it peeps happy)

chieftain: it will take on a more builder strat.

What will suit the game more?

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deity

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Monarch. We struggled mightily against the AI on Emperor and if we play at that level again, the AI will continue to plague us for a long time. We (ok, I) want this game to be human v human more than human, human v AI. The lower the AI the quicker we get to the entire reason we all got PTW to begin with.

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true, but some will gain more then others, due to starting positions

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Deity. Only the best survive. No one's guaranteed to be top civ, and the AI will be a challenge.

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Deity. i never play at this level in SP, but with several combined brains thinking throuhg the strategy we should cope fine. Plus, this will place a high value on Luxuries, which is always a good reason to go to war and/or conduct diplomacy with other human Civs.

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Am I deceived? 4 people 'say' deity, but only 2 votes for it?

The propaganda has begun...

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I'm one of the people who voted.

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Monarch.
We made it in the C3DG because there were plenty of excellent brains for each issue, but with the limited team size, we're likely to have only one (or two at most) brain per team which specializes on a given issue.

If we play on emperor, we're likely to side among humans against the AI at the beginning.

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Regent and Monarch aren't that different, but Regent provides a little challenge, while producing a minimal ammount of AI cheeting.

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there is bount to be at least one deity player in each team, add that to the combined minds....

one thing though, if there is an deity ai, he will lead in tech at first, wich well just doesn't seem fair (having to go back to sp strategies )

maybe agreeing not trade any techs to and from the AI might solve this

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We want this game to be human v human more than human, human v AI. The lower the AI the quicker we get to the entire reason we all got PTW to begin with.


I heartily agree with this logic. And for this reason I am voting Regent.

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Falconius and I agree, and so should everyone else! The AI in a MP game should just be a nuisance, not a major hurtle to overcome.

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Given the skill levels of players here.

Deity would actually be a battle with the AI.

In Emperor, the AIs will be merely a nusiance.

In Monarch, the AIs will be virtually vasel states of the players.

In lower levels, the AI will simply be overrun.

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I'd say Emperor. Good balance between challenge and fun, and humans don't need to ally up against the evil AIs to actually have a chance before the industrial age.

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I don't know about everyone else....

Spending the ancient era saving my ass fromt the righteous fire of the AI in Emperor mode (even in the Ancient era) is not my idea of fun.

Maybe in SP, but in MP, that's not what I would be there for.

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Monarch is still winning, though. As a compromise I think that would please most people.

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Okay, I can deal with Monarch. It might prove to be interesting...it's only a little tougher than my preferred Regent level...but note, that in Monarch is where the AI really begins to cheat.

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maybe, we could use the ai as one big barb tribe, and set them on chieftain

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Something else of note:

The AI is more easily manipulated into fighting your enemies than another human player. So, if you don't like Joe, jusy sick the AI on him!

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Diety. In most demo games the AI civs outnumber you 11 or 15 to 1. In this one they are ONLY half of the civs with at least 3 civs at the same disadvantage of you.

It makes the AI much easier to kill and we have the option of ganging up on them.

If we play at any level below Diety we need to add more AI civs.

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I know we could just gang up on the AI, but this game isn't to gang up on the AI, it's to gang up on each other and see how a MP DG really works.

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I am pretty dern interested to see what shall happen. What if every human team ended up with an AI ally? Or if all humans went up against all AI? Or etc etc. I'm not suggesting these things HAPPEN, I'm just saying they could. Having not played PTW I'm getting more and more anxious, and my ideas are just bouncing off the walls.

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We have not decided either how the victory is obtained : if the AI destroy all humans, is the last civ living the winner ?

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I doubt the problem will arise, but should it, I think you're right.

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We have not decided either how the victory is obtained : if the AI destroy all humans, is the last civ living the winner ?

If this is to happen, me think we should quitely leave and never mention this to anyone .
And certainly not look for an inter-site game

BTW: IF.....=Soren wins

 
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