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Chowlett
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of Candle'Bre
May 1999
time: 05:13
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Is the one I'm currently playing - on both counts!
On a huge planet, almost all the land was concentrated into one huge continent which ran W-E, then turns N-S. I (as the Peacekeepers) started exactly on the elbow, and exploration discovered the Hive to my west, the Gaians to the south.
Unfortunately, piecing together what happened retrospectively, all 7 factions started on this one continent - Uni and Morgan west of Hive, Spartans and Believers south of Gaians. The Hive and the Spartans were in all out nastiness mode, and by about 2250-2300 had eradicated all other factions.
So here am I, squashed between the 2 most powerful factions, each with about twice my land area. Then the Hive attack me, I take a base, and trade it back for peace. Then the spartans attack me - I manage to take quite a large number of her bases, and am proceeding merrily southwards. Then the Hive, who have been moving through my territory unstopped (mainly because I'm unable to) decide to suddenly attack me. Small problem, though, in the shape of the "defense gap" - the Hive have Shard (A13), while I have Silksteel (D4). They're now about to take the Human Genome, The Virtual World, and the Weather Paradigm. I could be in trouble here.
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SailorUranus
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Missoula, MT, USA
Oct 1999
time: 05:13
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Easy, just use what I'll call the "Unit Steal Dirty Trick".
Step 1, get a probe team.
Step 2, make sure there is at least one empty slot in the unit workshop.
Step 3, steal any of Yang's advanced units.
Step 4, open the unit workshop. You'll notice the unit you just stolen is now available in the workshop and already prototyped. Change the whatever you want, but don't change anything if you don't have its required tech unless you really want to (i.e. putting lighter weapons on defensive units or light armor on speeders).
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Chowlett
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of Candle'Bre
May 1999
time: 05:13
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Well, that would work, except that I got the project the Hive are stealing wrong. It is, instead, WP, Citizen's defense force and Hunter-Seeker! Ashamed to say, I couldn't face that - I reloaded from earlier and am now making Photon/Wave, and next Probability Machanics, my next two advances. Let's do some upgrading, guys.
Oh, and SailorUranus, I have as good weapon techs as the Hive. The problem is that Advanced spaceflight was researched well before anyone had (or indeed has) Photon/Wave machanics. Really, I should be playing with SNAC - that fixes the defense gap.
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Vi Vicdi
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Killeen, TX, USA
Nov 1999
time: 23:13
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A true Ironman only reloads when TerranX crashes ...
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Vi Vicdi
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Killeen, TX, USA
Nov 1999
time: 23:13
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The day TerranX stops crashing I will gladly play Ironman. Until then I'll just visualize my score x2 and pat myself on the back for shrewdly not bowing to the demands of ego and instead following the advice IT professionals have been dispensing for years: "Save early, save often."
And yes, I know about the autosave, which in the later years just isn't good enough. I don't want to spend 20 minutes watching terraformers creep their way across the map a second time because TerranX crashed some time after they did it the first. (Oh, by the way, units move faster if you scroll the map to the extreme edge before sending the move order.)
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spartak
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Hmm. Always woth a re-read of an old thread..
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MariOne
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Erewhon in Neverland
May 1999
time: 06:13
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It's the most stupid and farcical option, imho.
As if it effectively could guarantee that a score was obtained without reloads... 
Actually, under Ironman, when you save you *just* have to launch the game again.
Ok, this takes up, how much, 10? 30 seconds?
It's a bit more slow and annoying, but it won't deter at all any reload from someone who's determined to reload (=cheat...).
A more concrete effect would be that even when you reload an Ironman savefile, you get the same outcomes from combat, pods, etc..., as opposite to the randomness of normal settings.
This can be circumvented too, at the cost of a bit more effort:
you first reSAVE, and then you reload.
Each time you resave the same file, the Ironman outcomes will be scrambled, and you practically get randomness again.
Thus, if someone boasts that his result was obtained under Ironman, this does NOT exclude at all that he didn't reload to achieve his record: it only shows that he might be manic enough to bear with *some delay* to "fix" his result...
The player's word, i.e. the honor system, will be the only guarantee for his results, and that does NOT need any frigging Ironman setting, which indeed doubles the score with no merit at all, making it cumbersome to properly compare...
Is ther really someone who seriously expects to compare an Ironman score with a normal one, believing that it's actaully worth double than the normal????
You just get the hassle to manually HALVE the Ironman score, in order to compare it with others!...
quote:
Originally posted by Master Marcus
I ALWAYS play ironman. I'm a perfectionnist, I want to be in control of every anal aspect of my empire ( sole exception: auto tubes ) even if this means 20 minutes per turn: playing ironman is essential then. |
At the light of the above considerations, the quoted statement is utterly meaningless, a total nonsense...
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spartak
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You may be an ironman, but are you the HARDMAN?
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MariOne
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Erewhon in Neverland
May 1999
time: 06:13
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Pandemoniak, playing a normal, fair, GAME is not less rewarding or honorable than playing a normal, fair, Ironman game.
The ONLY point of Ironman indeed, was giving a "patent of honesty" to the game.
As a matter of fact, cheating with Ironman is equally possible, only a bit slower and annoying.
Boasting that you played an "Ironman game" just supposedly means "I have not cheated".
Well, it does NOT work that way.
IF you want to cheat, ther's no Ironman stopping you. An Ironman cheater is just a bit more manic and devious enough to take on the tedious tasks to be able to boast a hollow, undeserved Ironman tag.
IF you don't want to cheat in the first place, then you don't need no friggin Ironman.
Boasting the Ironman brand does NOT show you as a honest player!!! It shows you are a WEAK player, who needs a very thin Ironman barrier to keep yourself from cheating at the frist occasion (and also that you're not even purposeful enough in your cheating intention that a modest Ironman delay can stop you... too weak to keep from cheating, too weak to cheat with determination... bleah!).
In fact, Ironman players are WORSE and less honorable players than normal players, imho.
A much better player is one who tells you "I've not cheated" and you feel you can trust his word.
You should be proud of beginning a game telling yourself "this game I won't reload" and you win by keeping to that propositon. Forget Ironman.
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06-02-2000 16:56
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