06-11-2002 19:25									#1
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So I have a question, Can you unload units out of an Army now??? I still haven't gotten an Army yet so i don't know........but I would like to.

	06-11-2002 19:29									#2
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nope, and no upgrades either (game-balancing)

so better be carefull what to put in an army

	06-11-2002 21:36									#3
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One time an Impi beat my army of immortals. And I just mean one Impi

	06-11-2002 21:46									#4
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Same here Nuke, in my current game, one single Archer killed off my army of swordsmen!

	07-11-2002 00:46									#5
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Imi beating an army of immortals, now that may be the best one I have heard so far. Enough to make a grown man cry.

	07-11-2002 01:03									#6
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Immortals are a silly cheezy UU. Impi are cool as hell. They deserved to win.

	07-11-2002 01:18									#7
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Still can't upgrade armies? That's very lame. It makes them nearly useless, and certainly not something you would want to waste a leader on when the much better option is to build a wonder.

	07-11-2002 01:34									#8
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Actually, my first Great Leader I recieve, I build an army - to win at least one battle - This opens the way for me to build the Military Academy Small Wonder. With all of the other Great Leaders I might receive, I squirrel them away for Wonder construction.

	07-11-2002 01:40									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Actually, my first Great Leader I recieve, I build an army - to win at least one battle - This opens the way for me to build the Military Academy Small Wonder. With all of the other Great Leaders I might receive, I squirrel them away for Wonder construction.

I removed the flag requiring a victorious army to build the Military Academy. Figured that if you haven't gotten an army by the time you research Military Tradition, you should be able to build that so you can make armies the hard way.

	07-11-2002 01:43									#10
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Neat idea Sinapus...I never thought of that. Of course, this mean having to use the Editor in order to turn the requirement off. To bad this couldn't be done in the regular game set up.

	07-11-2002 05:58									#11
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Wait a minute...I seem to recall reading/hearing about how units in an Army will be able to be upgraded or switched (taken out of or added to an Army) in the PTW release...Did I recall this correctly or was it just a dream?

	07-11-2002 06:12									#12
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It is not mentioned in the patch readme and I do not see it in the manual.

	07-11-2002 06:28									#13
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True vmxa1, I just remember this during the PTW hype while it was still under production...

	07-11-2002 06:29									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Falconius Still can't upgrade armies? That's very lame. It makes them nearly useless, and certainly not something you would want to waste a leader on when the much better option is to build a wonder.

I think many would disagree with your assessment that armies are useless. A search of the strategy or even general forum would pull up many a thread where a case for the the real utility of armies is made pretty convincingly.

quote: Originally posted by Wittlich Wait a minute...I seem to recall reading/hearing about how units in an Army will be able to be upgraded or switched (taken out of or added to an Army) in the PTW release...Did I recall this correctly or was it just a dream?

I think that was a dream -- I don't recall ever hearing that, but I do recall reading in a chat or a Firaxian post about how, prior to the release of basic Civ III last year, they playtested with upgradeable armies. Found them too overpowering and hence unbalancing. So it was a design decision to make armies unloadable and units in armies not upgradeable. There was abrief bug (1.16 or 1.17) with the "j" stack movement command that allowed the unloading of an army, but that was quickly corrected (again evidence of their design decision that unloading / upgrading was unbalancing).

Catt

	07-11-2002 06:40									#15
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Maybe that's where I first heard about upgrading armies. Thanks for the reminder Catt.

	07-11-2002 12:18									#16
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Apparantly with the 1.04 patch, Armies can now pillage. I appreciate this.

	07-11-2002 13:13									#17
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Yes that was added and it is about time. I never understood by they could not.

	07-11-2002 13:16									#18
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It's the Heroic Epic you want if you want a greater chance of more GLs after an Army wins a battle.