07-11-2002 07:39									#1
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Hiawatha captured Berlin and found a German settler huddling inside. I captured the last German city - destroyed the civ. I then used the German settler to start an Iroquois city. In the old game, I don't recall capturing a settler in a town, but when one was captured on the road, it was converted into 2 workers. I didn't see this change in any documents. Did I miss it or is this a surprise?

	07-11-2002 08:04									#2
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they were converted either way in the old game

	07-11-2002 08:07									#3
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That's a new one on me. Usually settlers get converted to two workers. Never saw any other result.

	07-11-2002 08:59									#4
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	07-11-2002 10:14									#5
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Ok we all agree. Nothing was mention about any change to this that I read in manual or readme.

	07-11-2002 11:43									#6
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I smell a bug. I have captured cities with settlers in PTW. Converted to 2 workers.

Anyone else? When, how, and under what conditions?

	07-11-2002 12:04									#7
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That's a bug I'll look forward to experiencing.

	08-11-2002 00:05									#8
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They've always been converted to 2 workers for me. I capture settlers all the time and they have never meerely "come over."

	08-11-2002 00:23									#9
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Ok, it just happened to me as Ottomen and capture a Zulu city with a settler and a worker. When I looked at teh city, it now has three workers. NO settler.

	08-11-2002 01:07									#11
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Exactly vmxa1, I too have never captured settlers - they have always been converted to workers - whether I capture them in the open or in a city.

	08-11-2002 02:24									#12
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Could this be associated with finding a settler in the LAST city of a civ?

	08-11-2002 03:18									#13
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Maybe, but will be hard to repeat.

	08-11-2002 05:34									#14
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Are you sure that that settler wasn't being built when you captured the city? Maybe it got produced right away or something...maybe...

	08-11-2002 06:39									#15
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can it do that? i dont think stuff from one owner carries on to the next
then if the other guy rushed a temple, i'd get it
i'd like that, but i don't think it's likely

	08-11-2002 07:56									#16
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Slight error in original post. I went back to the most recent saved file that I had. The captured settler was not in the last city. He was in one that I overran a few turns before the attached file. I had a few of my own settlers heading to the front lines to take adavantage of open areas, so I was not surprised to see a settler in the area. I noticed the settler later and moved him. When I opened a city that the settler happened to be in, I saw the captured (German) Settler (in my colors!). He is in the vicinity of Skannyanutenate in the attached file.

Attachment: settler is near skannyutenate.zip
This has been downloaded 9 time(s).

Last edited by pbornemeier on 08-11-2002 at 08:13

	08-11-2002 07:58									#17
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Here is a partial screen shot of one of my cities containing one of my settlers and a german settler
http://www.apolyton.com/go.php?forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=1431120

Attachment: settler_oddness.bmp
This has been downloaded 61 time(s).

Last edited by pbornemeier on 08-11-2002 at 08:34

	08-11-2002 13:04									#18
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I capture two settlers in town in my curent game and all became workers?

	08-11-2002 15:04									#19
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Eh, pbornemeir you're zip isn't complete. It has the sav and then an unnamed 3mb file thats supposed to be in it for some reason. So it doesn't extract. And mind posting screenshots of it before possibly, and after? As well as reposting the sav so we can all see this, its really wierd.

	08-11-2002 15:31									#20
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pbornemeier, did you build a settler out of a captured town ? If you did, a settler created from their citizens shows up as foreign.

	09-11-2002 06:46									#21
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I was able to download and open both files, from the copies I posted, but for some reason they would have been automatically named, "attachment.php" a 106k bmp and a 220k zip. I don't recall building a settler from a captured town (usually force a temple then queue a barracks and marketplace), but I am not 100% positive. I also was unable to get a graphic to display in my post although I used what appeared to be the format mentioned in the help files: (spaces inserted to keep the fool compiler [ i m g ] h t t p / / w w w . a p o l y t o n . c o m / g o . p h p ? f o r u m s / a t t a c h m e n t . p h p ? s = & p o s t i d = 1 4 3 1 1 2 0 [ / i m g ] Did I reference the uploaded image incorrectly?

	10-11-2002 21:33									#22
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Ben is right. I've played this game enough to see this happen many times. Just capyure a city, then build a settler...easily repeatable. The interesting thing is even though that foreign settler builds a new city, the new citezens are of you civ.