08-11-2002 12:09									#1
	Espionage Support Apolyton, buy Call to Power 2

So, how do i conduct espionage missions, i have all the requirements, but i can't figure out how to do it...also, i can't figure out how to establish embassies, early in the game, a screen pops up and asks me if i want to establish embassies with a couple countries, but i can't figure out how to do it later in the game...thanks

	08-11-2002 12:29									#2
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

To establish embassies later on, left click on your capital, and select "conduct espionage". If, as I usually have, your Intelligence agency is in your capital, you get two options, establish embassy or create spy. Once the spy is in place (you may fail and they may declare war), go to the bottom right corner, where you have diplo-button and the unit statics, and click on E(spionage). You still need mkney to conduct espionage missions.

	08-11-2002 13:00									#3
	Increase the size of your Attachments

Quick get ptw and it will easy as pie. Shift + E will bring a menu of things you can do.

	08-11-2002 19:07									#4
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization 2

Try Crtl-E for establishing embassies and Ctrl-Shift-E for planting spys.

	09-11-2002 08:54									#5
	Put an end to popups!

thanks guys!!

	10-11-2002 20:47									#6
	Inflate your Upload Space

How often would you say spy missions succeed/fail in your own games? FOr myself I'd say that there are a great many spy missions that fail and cause me several wars, but I can usually handle myself so it doesn't matter. But how many people out there get away with espionage activities all the time?

	10-11-2002 23:58									#7
	Support Apolyton, buy Alpha Centauri

For planting spies: I seem to succeed at about a flat rate of 50%, but so long as I only try to plant a spy in a given civ once every 6-8 turns I very rarely end up instigating a war, and that only when the target is royally POed at me to begin with.

For anything else: Attempting a mission "safely" seems to succeed more often than not; I don't use espionage incredibly often, but I'd say probably as much as 3 out of 4 times, possibly a bit more.

	11-11-2002 00:46									#8
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

I do not even run spy missions, they are too expensive and fail too often.

	11-11-2002 02:37									#9
	Enter the AD-FREE zone

I only run spy missions to incite a war to reduce my WW

	11-11-2002 06:08									#10
	Increase Your PM Length

That will work, but I seem to have plenty of wars any way.

	11-11-2002 06:09									#11
	Got spare money?

I hardly ever run spy missions, too darn expensive.
In case it wasn't mentioned before, it's easier to plant a spy if the AI isn't under Democracy.

	11-11-2002 08:36									#12
	Support Apolyton, pre-order Civilization IV

What is it with the espionage missions being so damned expensive in CIV3? In Civ2 espionage was incredibly fun and exhilitaring for me, in fact I'd say that they provided the backbone to a great many solid games. Civ 3 is crap for espionage. Too much money and too little odds against you. Now if I had James Bond it would be different....

	11-11-2002 09:14									#13
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I really preferred having actual diplomat/spy units. It gave spy missions a greater sense of involvement and realism; now it's just the luck of the draw.

	11-11-2002 13:37									#14
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

we need something between what civ3 is and what civ2 was. Spies were too stroing in civ2.

	11-11-2002 14:38									#15
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What I would like to see is a new diplomatic/spy mission, assasination. Not the leader himself, but the advisors. Creates +1 content face in every city (unification after a tragedy), but the replacement advisor needs time to get things rolling, giving bad advice and false numbers. AI would work less effectively, lose money and such.

	11-11-2002 22:33									#16
	How get elite spies? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

If not going commie, how do we get veteran or elite spies. Military units gain battle status based on victories. Do spies every improve their status?

-- PF

	12-11-2002 01:11									#17
	Support Apolyton, buy Civilization: The Boardgame

This is from PtW readme:

quote: NOTE: If you fail a spy mission, you will automatically fail any spy mission against that same civilization for next 2-4 turns.

I think it also applies to base Civ3.