09-11-2002 05:10									#1
	Wise Men to Research -- WHAT? Tired of ads?

What shall our wise men study? Although we have a tech lead, there's a lot of important stuff on the wish list.

The last science poll got us started on the path of Medicine (now studying) - Chemistry - Explsives (engineers!)

We should also have Democracy available soon -- HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!

Our WoW poll shows we should also be working toward Darwin's Voyage. For that, we need a lot... Astronomy - Navigation (caravel, Magellan's) - Physics - Steam Engine (ironclad) - plus Bridge Building, all before we hit Railroad.

VOTE FOR OUR NEXT TECH!!

2 DAYS ONLY -- HYDEY NEEDS TO PLAY!!

	09-11-2002 05:53									#2
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Demo, it will almost double our trade

	09-11-2002 06:30									#3
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Democracy. It speeds up tech research, increases income and makes cities happier places.

	09-11-2002 14:10									#4
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Go with democracy, then continue on towards explosives.

	09-11-2002 16:33									#5
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Demo 1st, Chemistry 2nd!

	09-11-2002 17:34									#6
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Democracy-Game => Democracy

so we can start growing in all directions(pop/sci/improvements/WoW/money/...)

Shade

	09-11-2002 17:39									#7
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Just give me the F *Ing report

	09-11-2002 19:54									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey Just give me the F *Ing report

Hydey is back in the house

	09-11-2002 22:54									#9
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quote: Originally posted by Hydey Just give me the F *Ing report

If you've been watching the vote totals, i'm sure you can figure it out

	09-11-2002 23:24									#10
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Looks like it is going to be a very definate choice to go for Democracy, and I agree. We couldn't get into Republic early enough for it to help us a whole lot, though it did speed up our tech rate and improve our trade dramatically for a couple of sessions.

I'll leave it to our new President to decide when it is safe to move to Democracy after we "discover" it. He is experienced and he knows when the Oedo years occur.

	10-11-2002 02:15									#11
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Send email to Hydey stating the obvious -- posting here too.

The ppl want Democracy. Our other goals are engineers and Darwin's Voyage/RR. If democracy is not available, pick a tech that will help toward those goals -- Astronomy/Navigation/Checmistry.

Wishing Hydey great success in his 2nd presidential term...

	10-11-2002 02:47									#12
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Speaking of President Hydey... I asked you to let me know if you had received the save file, but I haven't heard back from you. Have you received it or not?

	10-11-2002 02:56									#13
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear Speaking of President Hydey... I asked you to let me know if you had received the save file, but I haven't heard back from you. Have you received it or not?

i imagine we all would have heard an earful if he hadn't received the game yet

	10-11-2002 04:01									#14
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Get Democracy!
In the first 'Democracy' game, we never were a Democracy, going from Monarchy to Communism.

Let us get Democracy in order to exploit an unused government form-

FUNDAMENTALISM!



Let's help build all of our city improvements through tithes, by building the SoL and switching to Fundy.
I believe that this will increase our science dramactically, more than making up for the loss of science under Democracy.



Maybe our new Prez can check it out for us, see if it will really save us time.

Congrats Hydey!

	10-11-2002 10:22									#15
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Obiwan -- our society has decided to win this game by going to Alpha Centauri via representative govts. -- The republic and Democracy.

All other government forms are rejected.

Maybe we'll play for Fundy/Commie in Game 3...

	10-11-2002 15:45									#16
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Let's help build all of our city improvements through tithes, by building the SoL and switching to Fundy. I believe that this will increase our science dramactically, more than making up for the loss of science under Democracy.

Fundi cuts our sience in half.

Demo gives us more sience then any other gouverment type. (Extra trade arrows and no corruption)

	12-11-2002 19:48									#17
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Let's help build all of our city improvements through tithes, by building the SoL and switching to Fundy. I believe that this will increase our science dramactically, more than making up for the loss of science under Democracy.

I am afraid you have it quitte backwards, Democracy will yield a much higher trade/science rate where as a fundy government has dificulty keeping up the science rate of monarchy There have been games where a fundy government has succesfully gone to AC but we have had a few trials in this game and are only ahead of teh AI by a nose, Fundy government now would throw us back just as we were finally getting ahead.

	12-11-2002 23:01									#18
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i must be tired, i can't remember what SoL is

	12-11-2002 23:57									#19
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Statue of Liberty

Is this the definitive proof that you're really a Brit?

	13-11-2002 03:37									#20
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I don't advocate scientific research under fundy. It's far too slow. I do advocate a temporary Fundy gov't to boost city infrastructure.

The key with the Fundy gov't is the tithes. Building libraries and marketplaces in every city dramatically increases our tech rate when we restore Democracy. Using the tithes extorted by Mike's chapel we could accomplish this task quite quickly. What I do not know is whether we would discover more technologies by switching to fundy long enough to build marketplaces, temples and libraries in every city, and then converting back to Democracy, then we would get by staying in a Democracy.

The ratio between staying and switching depends on the number of cities. If we have a large number of small cities, then it becomes very beneficial to follow this system. Fundy tithes are proportional to the number of temples and cities, and not to the overall city size as is a Democracy. Not only does science increase, but it is much easier to go to WLPD with marketplaces everywhere.

The problem of extra trade arrows is significant. This is why I suggest 30 percent luxuries to sustain a WLPD under a fundy government. This salvages the extra trade per city square while sacrificing some tax revenue.

Agreed- we must follow representative governments. I bow to the edicts of mighty Apolyton.

	13-11-2002 04:47									#21
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quote: Originally posted by -Jrabbit Statue of Liberty Is this the definitive proof that you're really a Brit?

Doh! I knew I was going to have to smack myself for this...
No, its proof positive I've been studying for my accounting exam too much. 3 hours of rest is not enough


When was I ever thought to be british?

	13-11-2002 19:25									#22
	Tired of ads?

Figured no American Civver would miss SoL so you must indeed be running on fumes.

(Of course, most Americans would think "SOL" to mean "sh*t out of luck"...)