13-11-2002 01:30									#31
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quote: I'd just keep my distances from Croatia for quite a few years to come. (make that decades).

I m eager to visit greece on the other hand, as soon as I can

I ll just make sure to have my kidneys safely stored somwhere before I go

	13-11-2002 01:30									#32
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Besides, Greece has the largest tourism in all med: 11 million tourists per years so I can take the poll slap.

P.S. About your kidneys, you can sell it to your albanian mafia, when (like always) you're short of cash

	13-11-2002 01:31									#33
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion Israel is dangerous

Well? Dont you want some action?

	13-11-2002 01:35									#34
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quote: I just thing that polls like this are inherently pointless

I do too. That is why I put 'best' and I could have been more specific (best for tourism, best to live, best to see...etc)

I hope for a general discussion about mediteranean countries

instead I get your trolling (expected) and not much else

because our fellow posters dont really understand mediterrasnean and its differences (not unlike I dont see differences between types of snow in baltic countries or somehting )

Italy is generally very overrated. so is greece

and all med countries lost somewhat of the old traditions as they become more modern

like beer is more and more popular in dalmatia, where wine used to be the drink and so on

	13-11-2002 01:36									#35
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quote: Besides, Greece has the largest tourism in all med: 11 million tourists per years so I can take the poll slap.

exactly! that is bad. point I try to make

	13-11-2002 01:36									#36
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That's all nice and fine but I'd still not go to Croatia not even under the point of a gun

	13-11-2002 01:39									#37
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quote: Well? Dont you want some action?

girls armed with M16's and with 3 years of military training turn me off

	13-11-2002 01:44									#38
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quote: That's all nice and fine but I'd still not go to Croatia not even under the point of a gun

why? you can pretend you are Macedonian and everyone will like you

any you can tell stories how bad greeks opress you and we ll symphatise

	13-11-2002 01:46									#39
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To try and be consctructive:

I believe that the med (as a geographical characterization) is the most diverse and interesting place on earth.

No where else will one find such diversity and fascinating different cultures. Spain Greece Italy Turkey and Egypt, Maroco Tynise...

It is really the most interesting part of the world any way you look at it.

	13-11-2002 01:54									#40
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which country will become the florida of EU what do you think? where old people come to live becaue of climate.. I hope not croatia damn

	13-11-2002 01:57									#41
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I voted Italy because of patriotism.

But personally I think that most Mediterranean Countries are very beautyful.

Till now I've visited, France, Greece, Turkey, Egypt, Lybia and Tunisia, and I must say that i liked them all.

I never been on any of the former yugoslavian repubblic, but next summer I already planned to go all the way from Croatia down to Kosovo (where I have a friend living there) and visit most of those states.

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	13-11-2002 02:00									#42
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion which country will become the florida of EU what do you think? where old people come to live becaue of climate.. I hope not croatia damn

I think Italy is already on that track, with about 48% of population over 60 years old. And most of them live up to 85+ years (my grandgrandmother is going to be 103 in a few months )

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	13-11-2002 02:06									#43
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wow you are well travelled giovanni

quote: I never been on any of the former yugoslavian repubblic, but next summer I already planned to go all the way from Croatia down to Kosovo (where I have a friend living there) and visit most of those states.

Croatia-Montenegro-Kosovo? With or without Bosnia? theoretically they have some sea (croatian sea really) so they are also mediterranean country, but they are not so in character. Very unique place. Where else can you see muslim punk rockers for example? Some good food too. Try to visit it also.

	13-11-2002 02:11									#44
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quote: I think Italy is already on that track, with about 48% of population over 60 years old. And most of them live up to 85+ years (my grandgrandmother is going to be 103 in a few months )

wow. my oldest granny is 90. had a hard life under at least 5 different regimes, never learned to write but still going strong

do old folks from for example germany move to Italy, or is that 48% just your own old folks?

you are going to need a lot of immigrants to help the economy

bad luck for you, you mostly get albanians which come together with their mafia.

	13-11-2002 02:13									#45
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Well, my plan was to make the "real" vacation in Croatia (1, maybe 2, weeks there of sea, discos and girls )
Than since one my friend is very good at sailing, and his very rich father owns a sailing boat , my thought would have been to sail all the way down to Montenegro, visiting in the meanwhile the various Croatian Islands, reach Montonegro, and from there go in Kosovo, and visit those my friends.

All this in between the last 2 weeks of July, and the first weeks of August

(good thing of being a student, so you can have a lot of spare time and visit a lot of nerby countries)

Saluti

	13-11-2002 02:13									#46
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Florida of the EU?

Well that's funny you should mention it because when Greece was about to enter the EU some people in Greece asked themselves: so what we going to become in that monster block?

And the punchline was: the waiters of Europe

	13-11-2002 02:15									#47
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That was used as a retort of the opposition to the governing party IIRC for lack of investments in heavy industry and other productive sectors.

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	13-11-2002 02:17									#48
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion quote: I think Italy is already on that track, with about 48% of population over 60 years old. And most of them live up to 85+ years (my grandgrandmother is going to be 103 in a few months ) wow. my oldest granny is 90. had a hard life under at least 5 different regimes, never learned to write but still going strong do old folks from for example germany move to Italy, or is that 48% just your own old folks? you are going to need a lot of immigrants to help the economy bad luck for you, you mostly get albanians which come together with their mafia.

yup.

the anti-Mafia commettee already stated that the Albanese Mafia is already running over half of the former Sicilian and Neaples Mafia stuff.

And yes... those are just our own old folks

That's why even Berlusconi had to create laws PROTECTING immigration, rather than outlawing it.

Saluti

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BTW Vetty, I have already visited Croatia (when you were still in Yugoslavia).

I only remember some very nice buildings in (what's the name of the capital?) oh yes Zagreb (sp in english?)

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quote: the anti-Mafia commettee already stated that the Albanese Mafia is already running over half of the former Sicilian and Neaples Mafia stuff.

didnt Carla I eat little kids for lunch del Ponte become famous by cracking some tough mafiosos? Let her loose on albanians Balkan states would be grateful

quote: BTW Vetty, I have already visited Croatia (when you were still in Yugoslavia). I only remember some very nice buildings in (what's the name of the capital?) oh yes Zagreb (sp in english?)

Zagreb is my hometown. if you get here again, all the drinks are on me

	13-11-2002 02:43									#51
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Same here whenever you visit Athens

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quote: And the punchline was: the waiters of Europe

yes too much service industry is bad
in Croatia we have some shipyards which are big industry but are unprofitable so there are going to be lot more waiters to compete with you

	13-11-2002 02:48									#53
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quote: Originally posted by VetLegion quote: the anti-Mafia commettee already stated that the Albanese Mafia is already running over half of the former Sicilian and Neaples Mafia stuff. didnt Carla I eat little kids for lunch del Ponte become famous by cracking some tough mafiosos? Let her loose on albanians Balkan states would be grateful quote: BTW Vetty, I have already visited Croatia (when you were still in Yugoslavia). I only remember some very nice buildings in (what's the name of the capital?) oh yes Zagreb (sp in english?) Zagreb is my hometown. if you get here again, all the drinks are on me

Well, when the Italian mafia guys went down, the Albanese were ready to sub them off .

Saluti

	13-11-2002 03:05									#54
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LOOOL I can't believe you really said Croatia is superior to Italy and Greece

The only thing I can recall about Croatia actually are war and doped, ugly female skiers

	13-11-2002 03:10									#55
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I have been to Italy, have you been to Croatia Datajack?

and ahem, we kick your ass in football so if you need some more of it you know where to go

	13-11-2002 03:12									#56
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quote: ugly female skiers

she is a godess!!

this means war you ignorant albertotombist!!!!

	13-11-2002 03:20									#57
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quote: and ahem, we kick your ass in football so if you need some more of it you know where to go

lol and remember what happened to croatian team after that match?

quote: she is a godess

She's the goddess of uglyness and of the total lack of ski tecnique

For apolytoners- and poor Paiktis living in a mountainless country aka not even a chance have some slightest interest to the winter olympics we're talking about Janica Kostelic

	13-11-2002 03:22									#58
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The Florida of Europe must be Spain, especially the Alicante area (Costa Blanca?) and the Canary Islands.

	13-11-2002 03:26									#59
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Actually we are not mountainless. We have plenty of mountains.

It's just that for some reason skiing never caught on in this country as a widespread sport.

There's snow in winter BTW in many of those mountains and there are skiing centers.

It just didn;t caught on.

(maybe because sea skiing was far more accessible? )

	13-11-2002 03:28									#60
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We'll be waiting for the first greek olympic gold in the next games then