13-11-2002 05:47									#1
	PtW changed civ starting locations? Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

i just tried out few games with ptw, and it seems im starting very close to other civs every game. for example, i build my first city and about 5 turns later i see that right above me by just few tiles is another civ and right below is another one. it wasnt this bad in civ3. im on normal map size and default # of civs for the size. how can i make civs start out further apart? this makes diety games very hard because i am surrounded quickly by other civs before i can even make my first settler.

	13-11-2002 06:18									#2
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

Gen up some civ3 maps and some ptw maps and compare them to see.

	13-11-2002 07:20									#3
	Culturally Linked Starting locations? Suffering from ads?

Maybe having that preference clicked when you start the game does something like this.? I know its suppsed to put the cultures that in reality your civ would on encountered closer to you, but not sure HOW close...

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	13-11-2002 07:40									#4
	Support Apolyton or Terrorists Win

If you're playing 70% or 80% water, you're sure to get a couple of nearby civs unless your start position is on a tiny island.

Under Deity, each rival gets double production plus an extra Settler to start. I bet what you're seeing isn't anything different from Deity under 1.29f.

- TT

	14-11-2002 01:08									#5
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

You can change the spacing of civs in the editor. I haven't played with that factor, though, so I don't have any recommendations.