13-11-2002 07:07									#1
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Okay, like you guys, I'm excited about the final weeks til release. But there's just too much fan expectation going on. I mean, there's just too many OVERexcited people spamming the hell out of the QS/IG board (not here, this place is somewhat relaxed). Like if MOO3 isn't the Second Coming (coming right now, like yesterday), they're apt to sue or commit hari-kari or something?

Oh no, MOO3 doesn't have IMFs and the graphics cap is at 800x600!! Omg, whatever rating I give it will automatically go down by 3 stars! Not gold yet? Omg, I'll have to make 5 separate posts about nothing and then troll the boards every hour until it's not gold the next day too.

Ommm. Ommmm. Relax. Find your inner power animal and imagine the Meklars gently inserting a data shunt up your nose to introduce happy feelings directly into your limbic system. Ommmm. You can wait in MOO3 limbo for 16-18 days.

	13-11-2002 08:06									#2
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The main source of anxiety right now is the realisation that if QS is going to meet the announced November 26 ship date, they have to get the game into the can very soon. Like now. I think that the MOO3 watchers (like myself) expected a "gone gold" announcement after the weekend... we're still waiting.

The longer the wait, the greater the probability that the ship date will slip--although at this point, any slippage will likely be small, probably to early December. That said, I'm sure that Infogrames really wants the game on the shelves by November 29, so as to cash in on the major shopping day following the American Thanksgiving holiday.

Once the game is released to manufacturing, the tension will probably subside a bit, with less to worry about and nothing to do but wait for shipping.

	13-11-2002 08:59									#3
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Moo III IS the second coming... and we all hope that it meets its release date or we will be forced to commit hari kari.

	13-11-2002 11:12									#4
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If moo3 dosnt go GOLD by the the 15th, this friday i would have to say it would slip to a early december release. Like Rantz said there still aiming for a 26th release but it is comming down to the wire.

	13-11-2002 12:51									#5
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So just do what I did. Buy Aliens vs Predator II in the discount bin, and forgetaboutit for now. Just shoot aliens. Then go back to the discount bin and find yet another great game for cheap (although it would be hard to beat the cost-effectiveness of a $18 great game like AvP2!)

Contrary to popular opinion, MOO3 will NOT come out faster if you spend time MOO-watching.

	13-11-2002 17:57									#6
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:Stares at the QS logo:

You never know

Unfortunately there aren't any games I can lose myself in at the moment. Sure, there are some I can pass the time with, but all the anticipation is for HoI, MoO3 and AC2 which inconveniently decided to arrive within a week or two of each other.

	13-11-2002 19:12									#7
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quote: Originally posted by Sollos Contrary to popular opinion, MOO3 will NOT come out faster if you spend time MOO-watching.

True, so true But, It might come later than you think if you Don't.

	14-11-2002 00:41									#8
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Wired, or weird?

	14-11-2002 04:06									#9
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WIRED? OF COURSE I'M FREAKIN' WIRED! I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS GAME FOR TWO FREAKING YEARS!

*ahem*

	14-11-2002 04:34									#10
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I have been waiting since Moo2 came out and I remember they pain of waiting for it once it was announced. Hopefully it will soon be over.

	14-11-2002 04:38									#11
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At least they don't have a friggen' counter on the site this time, as they had when back when we waited for Moo2.

I still remember the resets...

	14-11-2002 06:42									#12
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i learned my lesson waiting for civ3. if it comes out, it comes out. It'll be the week before my semester exams, so realistically I won't be able to play until just before christmass. So i'll probablly take it easy and just request it as a christmas present. In the mean time, I'll just watch everyone else stress and have an ulcer or two over waiting for the game

	14-11-2002 07:02									#13
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Honestly, I think it'll go gold the last minute it can and still be in stores for Thanksgiving weekend, even if that means they know there'll be a before its even shipped.

Id be very surprised if IG let it slip again, Im at least pretty sure they would not be happy at all if it did.

	14-11-2002 08:02									#14
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Yeah them and about 10, 000 of the faithful.

	14-11-2002 08:04									#15
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quote: So just do what I did. Buy Aliens vs Predator II in the discount bin, and forgetaboutit for now. Just shoot aliens. Then go back to the discount bin and find yet another great game for cheap (although it would be hard to beat the cost-effectiveness of a $18 great game like AvP2!)

...Some of us don't like action games

	14-11-2002 08:23									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Master-Mike If moo3 dosnt go GOLD by the the 15th, this friday i would have to say it would slip to a early december release. Like Rantz said there still aiming for a 26th release but it is comming down to the wire.

Don't expect a "gone gold" announcement. Infogrammes has been very tight on allowing develeopers to put out the gold announcements on many of their recent games. Civ3:PTW had a gone gold announcement on a friday and was in the stores the next wednesday. So the game could actually be gold now, but until the games are about to be shipped to retailers you won't hear about it. I expect Infogrammes has a severe financial penalty if anyone at QS lets it slip out before Infogrammes gives the OK.

	14-11-2002 09:58									#17
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quote: ...Some of us don't like action games

Grow some hair on your chest, lad. Aliens vs Predator II is freakin amazing. The Colonial Marines need YOU!

I play strategy games for thinking, and action games for fast thinking.

	14-11-2002 10:30									#18
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Fast thinking. You mean what is also known a sloppy thinking...I'm just kidding...I'm a little jealous of people that can enjoy action games...I have the hand eye coordination of a large elephant...and I grew up playing Risk so there is a certain socialized element there too. For me it’s just grin and bare it “…there ain’t nothing like the real thing ba-be…”

	14-11-2002 18:09									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Sollos Grow some hair on your chest, lad. Aliens vs Predator II is freakin amazing.

I see no connection between these two statements. Action games are far more about hand-eye co-ordination and knowledge of the levels than fast thinking. Ok, you may have to decide whether to use big gun 1,2,3 or 4 but the rest is just jump, strafe, fire, repeat.

	14-11-2002 21:38									#20
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Within a week of the game coming out 95% of the posts will more than likely be "The game SUCKS because it doesn't have ", or "I want MOO2 in better grpahics, how dare they introduce something I have to adjust my playing style for!"

Anyone who was on the Civ3 boards knows exactly what this place will be like. I just am curious if people will take the "moo" out of their names if they thing this game isn't what they expected as well..

	14-11-2002 21:53									#21
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Sollos, I don't think liking action games has anything to do with "hair on the chest" but simply with taste. They're just not the same.

	15-11-2002 03:03									#22
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Why beg for a game (MoO2) which had none of what made its predecessor (MoO) so awesome. I don't see how 3 could possibly fall short of the unfortunately low bar set by 2. I have every confidence that MoO3 will have me yelling "...LOOK UPON MY WORKS, YE MIGHTY, AND DISPAIR..." at my computer screen with a frequency that will make the ages of man pale, while my roommate (aka stranger from an antique land) looks on with the smug satisfaction that comes with the knowledge that in a year I will be plaguing my time with another, probably not equal, but detrimental game. Then again…I may be gearing myself up for the disappointment of a life time.

Hmmmmm…

	15-11-2002 04:00									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Ozymandous Within a week of the game coming out 95% of the posts will more than likely be "The game SUCKS because it doesn't have ", or "I want MOO2 in better grpahics, how dare they introduce something I have to adjust my playing style for!" Anyone who was on the Civ3 boards knows exactly what this place will be like. I just am curious if people will take the "moo" out of their names if they thing this game isn't what they expected as well..

It depends on the quality of the game. I don't recall anyone screaming that Civ 2 sucked, because it was better than its predecessor in almost every respect. Civ III did not achieve the standard of being better than its predecessors in all ways (especially since it refused to consider the good parts of kindred games like SMAC and CtP at all) so it was justifiably criticised by some people who wanted a better product. The PtW expansion has only reinforced that opinion.

	15-11-2002 04:02									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Bort Why beg for a game (MoO2) which had none of what made its predecessor (MoO) so awesome. I don't see how 3 could possibly fall short of the unfortunately low bar set by 2. I have every confidence that MoO3 will have me yelling "...LOOK UPON MY WORKS, YE MIGHTY, AND DISPAIR..." at my computer screen with a frequency that will make the ages of man pale, while my roommate (aka stranger from an antique land) looks on with the smug satisfaction that comes with the knowledge that in a year I will be plaguing my time with another, probably not equal, but detrimental game. Then again…I may be gearing myself up for the disappointment of a life time. Hmmmmm…

I take it you didn't like MoO2, then. Personally I still enjoy playing both 1 & 2....

	15-11-2002 04:35									#25
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I yerned for MoO2 and when it came out my Freshman year of high school. I did the math and decided how low I was willing to let my grades sink...and watched them fall far below that mark (dramatization) But as I pregressed through games and difficulty levels the entertainment value fell in a way that has not yet happened for me and MoO1 (we are still very close). I play MoO2 every now and then but its only the graphical improovment that gets me...once I've chosen my race and/or costomized it...the best part of the game is over...There is just something wonderful about 1 and the simplicity of it all. I'll admit the battles arn't as tactical but they do have those asteroids (on second though they arn't even worth mentioning). Oh well I've been rooting for a graphical upgrade for MoO1 all the way....but I'll take whatever I can get now...I certainly don't have the skills or the money to make one myself, so my kudos goes out to those who do....and then do.

	15-11-2002 04:44									#26
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quote: Originally posted by Swissy Don't expect a "gone gold" announcement. Infogrammes has been very tight on allowing develeopers to put out the gold announcements on many of their recent games. Civ3:PTW had a gone gold announcement on a friday and was in the stores the next wednesday. So the game could actually be gold now, but until the games are about to be shipped to retailers you won't hear about it. I expect Infogrammes has a severe financial penalty if anyone at QS lets it slip out before Infogrammes gives the OK.

I really hope you are right about the game being in Gold Master already, Swizzy. If the game really is not finished today (Thursday 11/14) then it is starting to look dim to be on time for 11/26, meaning that two precious days off from work will be wasted for me in a haze of moo3-less mediocrity and ennui...


On the Infrogrames forums, Rantz has been dropping hints all week that he is going to announce Gold status any day now, but they are rapidly running out of days until 11/26... Another delay, even a few days is indubitably going to cost Infogrames some sales, as other games that are already on the shelves for the USA's biggest shopping weekend will be snapped up as the Xmas presents instead of Moo3.

MasterDave

	15-11-2002 06:01									#27
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quote: Sollos, I don't think liking action games has anything to do with "hair on the chest" but simply with taste. They're just not the same.

With my incendiary remarks, I have achieved my objectives....

Actually I was being sarcastic. I like strategy games a bit more than action games, to be honest. And I know there's a difference.

But I won't retract my remark that strategy games demand thinking and action games demand fast thinking (unless it's a fast RTS, which requires both). By saying action games are 'simply' a matter of strafe, shoot, etc, one is just saying: "I'm not really into multiplayer action games", or "I've never been involved in serious clan matches before." Outside of manual dexterity, it does take fast intuitive thought and cunning, especially when you're coordinating a subteam of 5 players to instantly adapt to ever-shifting tactical situations, as in the case of TFC.

But hey, who cares? My point is, play another game until MOO3 is out. That's it. That's all. /Soap box mode off.

	15-11-2002 06:24									#28
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Never having played any MOO before, (I know, I'm a deprived child ) I have almost no preconceptions going in, except that everyone is highly anticipating this game. I'm a MOO newbie and proud of it! I stand ready to be awed by a new series

	15-11-2002 12:07									#29
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quote: Originally posted by MasterDave I really hope you are right about the game being in Gold Master already, Swizzy. If the game really is not finished today (Thursday 11/14) then it is starting to look dim to be on time for 11/26, meaning that two precious days off from work will be wasted for me in a haze of moo3-less mediocrity and ennui...

Look at it this way Dave, how often do you get a chance to see both the Detroit Lions and the Dallas Cowboys play on the same day?

(Prays to the Gone Gold Gods for deliverance)

	16-11-2002 18:56									#30
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im still waitin for DN4ever .. so im used to waiting. Its done when its Done