13-11-2002 07:49									#1
	How many consecutive terms a citizen should able to run for the same officer? Suffering from ads?

This is a recent debate in our thread and one of the crucial ones. It is agreed that a citzen can be in a government as many times as he wants.
But one thing that is dividing the debate is the consecutive times that someone can run in the same government position.
if the number of consective turns has ended the citizen will be allowed to run in others governement positions. And in the next or other terms the citizen will be allowed to run in this government position again.

Here are some comments about it so far:

quote: Originally posted by Locutus 3 makes sense to me. Two is more like real life American democracy, (...) It's unlimited in the Netherlands and IIRC 3 in Belgium

quote: Originally posted by Gilgamensch unlimited terms............ Why should we limit it?

quote: Originally posted by Pedrunn i do think we must limit the number of consecutive terms of a citizen. Two or Three consecutive times is really ok for me but try picturing a single citzen in the government in the same position during four times or more! (...) if the number of consective turns has ended the citizen will be allowed to run in others governement positions if not the same. And this cycle is a good thing for our democracy.

So how many consecutive times can a citizen run for the same government position?

	13-11-2002 08:37									#2
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Two sounds good, but then again it matters how much participation is present... So now I'm reconsidering my vote. Maybe 2 for president, and more for the ministers?

	13-11-2002 09:44									#3
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i think 4 or 5 is good, that way people have to eventually play a different part, but the level of participation isn't taxed too much

	13-11-2002 12:03									#4
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Seconding H Tower.

	13-11-2002 20:22									#5
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I go with unlimited,

if we think somebody is doing a good job, why shouldn't he be able to run again for the same position..... Doesn't make sence for me.

And espacially: Unlike in real world we have the power

nobody can force us to stay with the same person, we can always vote him away

	14-11-2002 18:58									#6
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Thirding H Tower but voted 3 since that had 2 votes already and is thus better competition for Unlimited (using H Tower's argument almost any number but unlimited will do)

	14-11-2002 19:22									#7
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These poll results shouldn't be taken too literelly, since there are 4 options for limited terms, and 1 against limited terms...so if the total of the limited terms is more then the unlimited turns vote, then i think terms should be limited/

	14-11-2002 19:24									#8
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I guess it should be a Limited X Unlimited rather than this way
Or not?

	14-11-2002 19:27									#9
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Yes, I think the limited choices can just be lumped together when compared to unlimited. If a majority votes for unlimited, we go for unlimited, if a majority votes for limited, we go for the most popular of the limited choices (and 3 sounds good to me, I suggested it in the first place ). Right now, limited is winning (but only by 1 vote; edit2: now it's a draw ).

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	14-11-2002 19:36									#10
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No, unlimited................. Their will be a dinasty.............

	14-11-2002 22:52									#11
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Well I think the judges will be unlimited, if only because they serve 3 month terms, and if the can only get elected for 3 terms, that's 9 months!

If elected and re-elected judge, I promise not to keel over and die from old age

	15-11-2002 12:47									#12
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Only if they will be doing a good job, otherwise: HIRE and FIREEEEEEEEE (at least kind of )

You should keep your phrase for the election period, maybe someone will decide to vote for you, because of this

	17-11-2002 15:31									#13
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Looks the majority chose unlimited

	17-11-2002 20:05									#14
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it won't be that bad pedrunn, and besides, most people use the cabinet positions as a stepping stone towards the presidency (going on what i've seen from the Civ2 game). So there will still be turnover.

	18-11-2002 03:25									#15
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In such a case as this forum (in which all people is possible to think for themselves) i think the choice of the majority is much better than the choice of one person. So i will accept this poll result even though it was not my choice.

So viva la majority. viva la democracy! :b

still (I am trully more sad about other poll resuslts like the impeach thing)

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	19-11-2002 00:50									#16
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I say unlimited for most offices except president.

	20-11-2002 18:59									#17
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Yup, unlimited seems to have won alright...

Now we can only hope that people will be willing to give up their offices voluntarily every now and then or wait until people change their mind and we can amend the constitution...