13-11-2002 08:44									#1
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Just wondering... Do you truly think that Dinosaurs has a chance of ever becoming a game?

If so why?

Sid Meier, in an recent CGMagazine interview, expressed interest about redoing XCom or Master of Magic... and made some cryptic remarks about Pirates!, whilst some petitioned him to make a sequel to Antietam!

Why would he return to Dinosaurs?

And how would he make it into a better game... a game that could be viable and sell in today's market... without being a ripoff clone of Civ III and AC?

	13-11-2002 10:48									#2
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Probably not with the next few years, perhaps in 5 years but more likely never.

	13-11-2002 11:43									#3
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I think it depends on what he was going to try and do with the game. I never understood what they wanted to accomplish and what the game type was going to be. If you read the designer updates, you got the feeling they didn't know either. Each update was just about the complications of choosing RTS or TBS, or evolution game. They just didn't know what to go on.

I think that if Sid or any other company comes up with an idea for a game with dinosaurs that it will be made immediately and be a huge success. People like dinosaurs. We have an obsession with them and all it will take is one good idea and it will be a huge market.

	13-11-2002 23:36									#4
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i voted never, but then I never could figure out how they would make the game interesting to play. Dinos are cool, sure, but what do they do?

	14-11-2002 02:15									#5
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They've given up and forgotten all about this game a long, long time ago...

	14-11-2002 04:47									#6
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus They've given up and forgotten all about this game a long, long time ago...

But Apolyton has not...

	14-11-2002 08:03									#7
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...Perhaps they could have made a good RTS... But I really can't see Dinosaurs succeeding as a TBS game without being derivative and exactly like Civ or one of the civ-dino adaptations...

Perhaps they should have crafted Dinosaurs like Sim-Life...?

	14-11-2002 10:17									#8
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does firaxis make RTS games though? I didn't think they did

	14-11-2002 15:26									#9
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I'd like to see an update of SimEarth. That, of course, is RTS, though, so I don't think Firaxis would touch it.

	14-11-2002 16:54									#10
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I think the Dino-hype is way over....

	14-11-2002 19:23									#11
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quote: Originally posted by tniem But Apolyton has not...

Do we ever forget anything?

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	14-11-2002 19:51									#12
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quote: I'd like to see an update of SimEarth.

I never got to play that game when it came out, and now it won't run with me...

	14-11-2002 21:55									#13
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower does firaxis make RTS games though? I didn't think they did

Gettysburg.

	15-11-2002 05:57									#14
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quote: Originally posted by Locutus They've given up and forgotten all about this game a long, long time ago...

Its Sid's baby. He won't have forgotten about it.

	16-11-2002 11:59									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Skanky Burns Its Sid's baby. He won't have forgotten about it.

Sid's not calling the shots anymore, InfoGreed is

	16-11-2002 14:16									#16
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Lemmy: Here, some computer stores sell packages of six old SimGames. One of them has SimEarth. Maybe you can find it.

	25-11-2002 22:14									#17
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A cool little real-timer like the old game EVO would be nice.

	26-11-2002 01:26									#18
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower does firaxis make RTS games though? I didn't think they did

As already mentioned Gettysburg/Antitem were RTS games (although not your classical real time game). In that same sense SimGolf was real time in the same way that a simulation dinosaur game would have been. So I would not think that a SimEarth or SimLife or SimPlanet type game with dinosaurs at the heart of it would have been all that unthinkable for Firaxis to do. Nor do I think a game without that much opportunity for success would have been unthinkable for Sid to do. After all, he did make CPU Bach, a program that created music in the style of Bach and as far as I know, did not sell very well. So I think a dino game may have been possible by Firaxis.

	26-11-2002 01:28									#19
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower Sid's not calling the shots anymore, InfoGreed is

Umm, only on the games that Infogrames publishes and as far as I know, that is done after PTW. Then back to Firaxis' relationship with EA. There they have produced Gettysburg, AC, and SimGolf. Most likely that Firaxis will be heading back to them for future works.

	26-11-2002 05:05									#20
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True, Firaxis only dealt with infogreed due to the necessity of the situation. infogreed owns the Civilization brand-name, so they had to work with that publisher if they were to use the name.

	29-11-2002 04:38									#21
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I doubt it will ever get finished and I can't say that is a bad thing.

	13-12-2002 14:06									#22
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hmm, I guess it is time to bury this forum.........

	19-12-2002 06:28									#23
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i guess so, alva...

and the game is not gonna happen...

	19-12-2002 06:53									#24
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Not so fast, people.

	14-01-2003 01:23									#25
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Hmm...

Maybe after new version of Pirates or X-com get rereleased.

And that could take a while.

	14-01-2003 02:06									#26
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looks like a bumped this forum ...

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maybe we should top the hello there! Theard so people new to apoyon knew what happened!

	14-01-2003 05:49									#28
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Dinos was not definantly going to be an RTS. Sid did mention that a TBS version was one of the three main ones he was partial to.

	23-01-2003 08:13									#29
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Apocalypse is right!

	23-01-2003 10:29									#30
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I haven't yet given up the hope. So I voted several months ago that the Dinosaurs would be seen in 4-5 years, despite my own estimate is even more distant than that.