14-11-2002 00:33									#1
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3 units this time, 2 of which are still under construction.

A scout in the south of our territory...still had order to go for the pod.



A probe foil under construction on the east coast.


And one on the west coast



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	14-11-2002 00:54									#2
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Instead of directly going to the pod, may I ask you let the southern scout first explore some more of the black area? I'll need to know what's there pretty soon if I want to organize decent colonization polls. You could reach the black area soon by going west two tiles and then following the river course upwards.

	14-11-2002 01:25									#3
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red (though not that *exact* path )
yellow
yellow

	14-11-2002 02:36									#4
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red
yellow
other-something between red and yellow, i.e. northwest

	14-11-2002 02:37									#5
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

What Maniac said
between yellow and red
yellow

	14-11-2002 03:06									#6
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I'd like to point for the east probe foil that the heightmap shows a small island between the red and yellow line.

	14-11-2002 03:42									#7
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OK... more yellow then IMHO, straighter route to the base.

	14-11-2002 18:26									#8
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R
Y
Y - let's see how wide the ocean is, and who is one the other side . . .

	14-11-2002 21:56									#9
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Red - But only if it follows that EXACT path (^_^)
Yellow
Yellow

All grabbing any pods on the way, of course.

	15-11-2002 03:05									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Hikaru Ichijo All grabbing any pods on the way, of course.

but only if we have 3 moves or more left. if we pop a pod with 2 moves or less and it's an IOD, bye bye probe

	15-11-2002 03:09									#11
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agreed, infiltrating is the top priority for that foil.

	15-11-2002 03:13									#12
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quote: Originally posted by TKG but only if we have 3 moves or more left. if we pop a pod with 2 moves or less and it's an IOD, bye bye probe

But then you could just reload (^_^)

just kidding...

yes, what I should have said would be "grabbing any pods along the way whenever it is safe to do so."

	15-11-2002 17:45									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Hikaru Ichijo yes, what I should have said would be "grabbing any pods along the way whenever it is safe to do so."

I propose we wait until we can use a transport foil to collect the pods. AA's and free rovers (no ogres in SMAC, bummer) are excellent finds that would be lost if we used the foil . . .

	15-11-2002 22:43									#14
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red
yellow
green(less acute angles on the zig-zag, though)

quote: Originally posted by Earwicker I propose we wait until we can use a transport foil to collect the pods. AA's and free rovers (no ogres in SMAC, bummer) are excellent finds that would be lost if we used the foil . . .

Dude!! You mean ogres like the old micro-game by Metagaming?

How else could we have survived the late '70s/early 80's?

	16-11-2002 00:38									#15
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Don't forget that Origin made the Apple ][ game of the same name -- too bad the never made G.E.V. There was a cool game that deserved a little more respect

	16-11-2002 20:42									#16
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quote: Dude!! You mean ogres like the old micro-game by Metagaming?

i don't know much about the 70s/80s
but in SMAX they're theoretically left over from the progenitor's first mission or something
Mk1: 6r/3r/1
Mk2: 12r/8r/1 *2 (IIRC)
Mk3: 30/12/2 *4 (IIRC. VERY rare)

	16-11-2002 20:44									#17
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in game

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	18-11-2002 18:42									#18
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quote: Originally posted by TKG Mk3: 30/12/2 *4 (IIRC. VERY rare)

You can say that again, I have yet to unearth a Mk3. All the pods are gone by the time the ame would dole one of those out . . .

	18-11-2002 20:52									#19
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bRr: They even took the series a little further, with some GEV expansion stuff.

SMAX ogres: d'oh! I saw 'em in the manual, but haven't actually played SMAX, sticking to SMAC 'til I upgrade my hardware. I've got 300 MB left on a 2 GB hd and run SMAC without sound or project movies.

	20-11-2002 21:17									#20
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Considering that probe teams take a while to build and move to place (we now know that the base at the end of probe yellow and red path belongs to the Hive), we should consider continuing build orders at TBIBTU to construct and launch a second probe from the northeast shores. Yang likely has at least two techs we don't, and one probe trip must be to infiltrate datalinks.

If we are running knowledge by that point, the probe could be lost int he process. We cannot afford the setback or wait to gain gatling weapons and plasma armor from our enemy.

	20-11-2002 21:39									#21
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First build a former there!

	20-11-2002 21:55									#22
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I'd go with Earwicker. I can't see an *overriding* need for a former there. I think it can wait and HEC is needed more IMHO.