14-11-2002 02:33									#1
	Scientific? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Hey all,

I've been having some trouble with the Scientific trait lately. It is supposed to give an extra tech at the start of each new era, and it always has in the past, but now I'm only getting the tech that puts me into the new age. For example, in my currect game as Persia, I research metallurgy to go up to the next era, and then I select the next tech I want...but it seems that it has automatically picked Nationalism for me as my free tech. In the past, I picked the tech I wanted as the free tech. Was this changed in a patch or am I just missing something?

Thanks.

	14-11-2002 03:26									#2
	Got spare money?

I don't think we have ever been able to pick our free tech with scientific civs.

	14-11-2002 04:07									#3
	Put an end to popups!

If you select the tech that you normally get free at the start of each era, the game will automatically select something else.

For example, as I enter the Industrial era, I select Nationalism for research. I then get Medicine for free instead of Nationalism. Or as I enter the modern era, I select Rocketry for research. I then get Fission for free instead of Rocketry.

Of course, you can't control which specific tech you receive, however, you can tell the game not to give you the tech that you'd normally get free. The choice it makes for you then is random (in my experience anyway).

	14-11-2002 04:20									#4
	Inflate your Upload Space

I started a thread about this a few eeks back. It seems I get Montheism / Nationalism / Rocketry about 95% of the time. Occasionally, I have received Ecology instead of Rocketry and Medicine instead of Nationalism. But, in a game in which I received Ecology (and which triggered my thread), I reloaded 4 times, each time selecting a different research path, and each time I reeived Ecology -- i.e., my tech choice had absolutely no impact on which free tech I got (when I choose Ecology, it would very quickly thereafter say "We have mastered the secrets of Ecology. What shall we research next?")

I have never seen an ability to choose which free tech you get in any of my games - and I don't know how the choice is made for you (i.e., what variables involved).

Catt

	14-11-2002 05:00									#5
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Yes I agree, I have never been able to select. ToE lets you pick one and you get the currently researched one.

	14-11-2002 16:03									#6
	Increase Your PM Length

Why does my science dude (who looks like Sid Meyer) say that we have learned the tech from one off my enemies?

	14-11-2002 23:46									#7
	Increase Your PM Length

Great Lib, do you have it and has Education been researched?

	15-11-2002 01:04									#8
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I wish you could select the specific tech.

	15-11-2002 01:15									#9
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quote: Originally posted by vmxa1 ToE lets you pick one and you get the currently researched one.

ToE? Translation? I even checked the "Abbreviations" thread on this. Maybe you should post it there.

The old editor?
The other end?
The obscure enemy?
Test of excess?

What?!

	15-11-2002 01:40									#10
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Theory of Evolution

	15-11-2002 01:41									#11
	Increase Your PM Length

ToE = Theory of Evolution (the Great Wonder)

	15-11-2002 02:21									#12
	Avatar Enlargement: We've got the solution

Sorry, too much time on the board.

	16-11-2002 01:30									#13
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quote: Originally posted by Catt I started a thread about this a few eeks back. It seems I get Montheism / Nationalism / Rocketry about 95% of the time. Occasionally, I have received Ecology instead of Rocketry and Medicine instead of Nationalism. But, in a game in which I received Ecology (and which triggered my thread), I reloaded 4 times, each time selecting a different research path, and each time I reeived Ecology -- i.e., my tech choice had absolutely no impact on which free tech I got (when I choose Ecology, it would very quickly thereafter say "We have mastered the secrets of Ecology. What shall we research next?") I have never seen an ability to choose which free tech you get in any of my games - and I don't know how the choice is made for you (i.e., what variables involved). Catt

I hadnt noticed that trend since I dont play scientific too often (I choose random civs) but I got those exact advances with the Ottomans in my current game.