14-11-2002 02:51									#1
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Nothing new expect....... WHY WASN'T THE WISHES OF THE PEOPLE HASN'T BE CARRYED OUT!!! WHY ARE WE STILL AT WAR WITH THEM!!!

Thats all.

	14-11-2002 02:55									#2
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There tech & stuff:

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	14-11-2002 02:56									#3
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did you wish me to give them all our techs and gold for peace?

I thought that would be silly but please poll the people and if they agree to peace at all cost then I will do that.

	14-11-2002 02:56									#4
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There cities:

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	14-11-2002 02:57									#5
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There homeland:

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	14-11-2002 02:58									#6
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You have 3 days.

	14-11-2002 04:13									#7
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Do we have any ideal what thier troop strength is? That would be the deciding factor on the question of if we should give into thier silly demand for peace.

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	14-11-2002 05:34									#8
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No strong views (for once) . They are bit players at the moment. However, the area around that Barbarian city is a tempting source of cheaply bribed "NONE" units if we can get a boat there with a diplomat.

If not, leave them alone for a while (give a tech or two to make peace, trade with them etc,) and concentrate on spoiling the expansion/growth of our main competitors.

	14-11-2002 06:36									#9
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I really don't care if the Carths are "at war" with us. They can't even protect their own cities from the Barbs they have allowed into their midst. When I have voted "peace" in the past polls, I meant that "we" should not attack "them". What they do is nearly irrelevent.

	14-11-2002 17:33									#10
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Ok, I'll have more choices than last time.

	14-11-2002 20:22									#11
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Send the Diplo mission to the barbs and give the Carths some hell....

	14-11-2002 23:28									#12
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, Messer Niccolo. Barb troops are cheaply bought and will keep the carth armies busy in their homeland. We should give them nothing to secure peace since we have little to gain by that peace.

Steal what tech we don't have. If at some point afterward they seek a ceasefire, we should do so only if it involves no cost to us.

If there is a safe waterway to a more distant trade partner, I would give precendence to it rather than trading with the nearby Carths. Save them only for emergencies or good supply-demand matches.

	14-11-2002 23:35									#13
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear I really don't care if the Carths are "at war" with us. They can't even protect their own cities from the Barbs they have allowed into their midst. When I have voted "peace" in the past polls, I meant that "we" should not attack "them". What they do is nearly irrelevent.

Yes they are rather pathetic,

One thing we can do after magnetism is empty out their coastal city's with frigates and let the barbs take over.

More NON units to bribe

	15-11-2002 01:07									#14
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give them peace...let the barbs kill them

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	15-11-2002 08:37									#15
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Originally posted by Atawa:

One thing we can do after magnetism is empty out their coastal city's with frigates and let the barbs take over.



Leave them with one city, though.
We don't want a strong restarted civ.

How many of our total units are Nones?
Does our prez know?

	15-11-2002 12:19									#16
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 Originally posted by Atawa: Leave them with one city, though. We don't want a strong restarted civ.

We don't have to worry about this post 1500 AD do we?

	15-11-2002 22:00									#17
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quote: Originally posted by obiwan18 How many of our total units are Nones? Does our prez know?

IIRC somewhere between 2 and 5...

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	16-11-2002 05:39									#18
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quote: Originally posted by 123john321 Ok, I'll have more choices than last time.

Maybe not so much "more" as "different". I'd suggest the choices be more in line with how *we* want to react to *them*. Even if a civ is technically "at war" with us, we can choose to ignore them so long as they don't actually attack us.

	16-11-2002 05:51									#19
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The Ministry of Trade has identified 4 NONE units from City and Caravel payroll records. It is possible there are 1 or 2 others being paid out of local "operating expenses", though...

	16-11-2002 18:27									#20
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quote: Originally posted by cavebear Maybe not so much "more" as "different". I'd suggest the choices be more in line with how *we* want to react to *them*. Even if a civ is technically "at war" with us, we can choose to ignore them so long as they don't actually attack us.

Thats what I mean, next time, is going to be "War, but don't fight" & a "Peace for free!" choice.

	17-11-2002 04:56									#21
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Poll closed.