16-11-2002 21:11									#31
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Unfortunatly.
Really now, with the ability to Crawl Nuts from Condensor + Farm squares, there's no reason to not try and cram as many of these mineral & energy gold mines in as possible. 6 per base, under the following base pattern

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	16-11-2002 21:26									#32
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No forest? Interesting. Does this I suppose timeconsuming terraformation tactic pay off in multiplayer?

	17-11-2002 03:43									#33
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quote: You're right. This is not the pollution which is a nuisance to environment, this is the impurities that are in air and water.

If we have Hybrid Forests, the boreholes do no damage to the enironment, nor do any other terraforming improvements we build.

	17-11-2002 03:45									#34
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Archaic: shouldn't that at least wait until Hybrid Forests? That many boreholes will lead to a lot of fungal pops and hence mindworms ripping everything up.

	17-11-2002 03:55									#35
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quote: Anyway, we can rushbuy this jolly hybrid forests with EC from simple solars...

Need I remind you that it was you that said we would need to build a couple of boreholes before we could afford a Hybrid Forest.

	17-11-2002 16:33									#36
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac No forest? Interesting. Does this I suppose timeconsuming terraformation tactic pay off in multiplayer?

In both SP and MP, Forests play a much larger part, especially at the point we're at right now. That's a pic of the final target, after Hab Domes.

quote: Originally posted by GeneralTacticus Archaic: shouldn't that at least wait until Hybrid Forests? That many boreholes will lead to a lot of fungal pops and hence mindworms ripping everything up.

I highly doubt we'd be able to develop each and every single square up to that sort of standard before we got Hybrids. And no, not really. Each fungal pop gives an extra free mineral. It's better to have it early, before you discover SFF and MMI, after which the bloody locusts come out. (They're not all that nasty actually, becuase their SAM reduces their effectiveness against..well...anyone they'd normally have the chance to attack. Problem is there's a damn sight lot more of them.)

	18-11-2002 09:26									#37
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I'm just referring to the fungal pops themselves destroying the terraforming, which would be quite important with that many boreholes.

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	19-11-2002 17:17									#38
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Fungal Pops don't destroy Boreholes, Condensors, or Mirrors. Quite handy that. I'd have to check if they stop you working them though. I don't think they do.

	19-11-2002 17:55									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Archaic I'd have to check if they stop you working them though. I don't think they do.

They don't with boreholes, so I presume you can still work all 3.

	19-11-2002 18:40									#40
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I seem to recall that mirrors on fungus aren't destroyed and you can work their tile, but they don't increase the energy of solar collectors on adjacent tiles.

And, thankfully, true about boreholes, so make sure we have roads on thos squares to get in and remove the fungus after the pop.

	20-11-2002 00:12									#41
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Why? They don't harm the boreholes anyway, so removing the fungus of that tile would be a waste of precious former time.

	20-11-2002 00:51									#42
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True, but if the fungus remains on the tile, worms might eventually appear there unnoticed and attack an adjacent base, former, or crawler.

	20-11-2002 01:01									#43
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Yes but I think removing other fungus, that could hide a worm and stop terraforming is a more important consideration.

	20-11-2002 01:39									#44
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IIRC, you get the production a fungus square would normally make if it pops over a borehole.

	20-11-2002 01:42									#45
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TKG, IIRC you recall incorrectly. Test it out!

	20-11-2002 01:43									#46
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Do you? Maybe I have a different version but I normally find i get borehole production even withfungus in the square too. I think anyway

	20-11-2002 01:47									#47
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I have had the same experience as Maniac and Drogue, otherwise woule live in much greater fear of pops. Boreholes still give 0-6-6 when fungusized.

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	20-11-2002 02:04									#48
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well, good, i guess. thanks then. this is why i put IIRC, instead of "i am absolutely sure"

	20-11-2002 02:19									#49
	Put an end to popups!

What does IIRC stand for?

	20-11-2002 02:32									#50
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if i recall correctly

	20-11-2002 11:07									#51
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quote: Fungal Pops don't destroy Boreholes, Condensors, or Mirrors. Quite handy that. I'd have to check if they stop you working them though. I don't think they do.

Really? Cool

	20-11-2002 17:25									#52
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Just tested. Doesn't work with Condensors. Fungus pops, and the production stops.

I haven't checked with a just Condensor square yet though. Only with Condensor/farm, where the farm was destroyed. Still, since it didn't destroy the Mirrors or Boreholes, it should be fine.