14-11-2002 17:43									#1
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In many computer/network games I would have secret alliances with some of my human opponents to wipe out the other players before going to war with each other. We would talk and coordinate our forces in the shadows and kick the unsuspecting target's approriate arse.

Do we want to consider this strategy and if so who should we consider an alliance with and against?

	14-11-2002 18:11									#2
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Maybe an alliance against the builder civ... before they get built up so much they are impossible to destroy.

	14-11-2002 19:01									#3
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I think if we align, it must only be with one opponent, and against all others.

Looking at it, there are two teams everyone seems to be gunning for, us and Trip's team. This would suggest a natural alliance to be formed between us, should they see it the same way...

	14-11-2002 20:16									#4
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I'm all for secret alliances, but i hate to have them predetermined.

the fact that we vocerifciously came out and said "WERE GONNA KILL ALL YOU SH*THEADS!!!!!" kinda limits our choices though, i suppose

	14-11-2002 21:31									#5
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Uber, I'm kinda suprised that you didn't like that.

I must agree with Uber on this. Lets not make a predetermined alliance. Lets wait and see where everyone is and how everyone is doing first. We must also remember that making an alliance with someone would be a GREAT way to ensure the three move Rider suprize attack would work. Make an alliance with someone, put a cursory force out in battle with them to make it look like we are helping, and build up several Rider stacks just out side of their vision and pounce on their border cities while they have their main forces out fighting another civ....hmmm this could be fun...

	14-11-2002 23:59									#6
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX I'm all for secret alliances, but i hate to have them predetermined. the fact that we vocerifciously came out and said "WERE GONNA KILL ALL YOU SH*THEADS!!!!!" kinda limits our choices though, i suppose

No not really, we simply turn to our secret ally and whisper, "but we'll kill you last."

quote: Originally posted by donegeal Make an alliance with someone, put a cursory force out in battle with them to make it look like we are helping, and build up several Rider stacks just out side of their vision and pounce on their border cities while they have their main forces out fighting another civ....hmmm this could be fun...

Exactly. One of my favorite tactics scouting with a 6 unit stack of horsemen/knights/riders.

"What are those 6 Knights doing near my border?"

"Don't worry, their simply a scout patrol updating my map."

"6 Knights are not a scout patrol!"

"Their a scout patrol in force."

	15-11-2002 02:22									#7
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"we don't f*ck around with our patrols "

	16-11-2002 18:04									#8
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agreed an alliance would be nice, still not too early or we might turn all the other civs against us(before we can stand them all that is) Still it all depends on how the world looks like ofcourse.

	16-11-2002 18:55									#9
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Of course, we will need to know start locations before thinking of making an alliance with anyone.