14-11-2002 19:01									#1
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See title of thread: how long should goverment officials (particularly President and Minsters) serve in office before election have to take place again (not counting impeachments)?

Should it be a fixed time, a fixed number of turn, a fixed number of playing sessions (where the number of turns per session is yet to be determined but most likely is variable: it depends on the situation in the game and the orders that are available), or something else altogether?

If you vote for a different or a combination system, please post details (e.g. which systems would you combine?)

Last edited by Locutus on 14-11-2002 at 19:31

	14-11-2002 19:14									#2
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Thats a hard to decide poll!!!

	14-11-2002 19:18									#3
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1 month...meh, 4 weeks will do then..

	14-11-2002 19:18									#4
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I know, but if we don't decide now, we'll still be bickering about this in 3 weeks. That might keep up our reputation, but that doesn't mean it's a good thing

Edit: yeah, Lemmy, that's what I meant with 4 weeks...

	14-11-2002 19:24									#5
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hard to decide, I would like to have an option saying flexible.

But as you said, we might have decided once we are dead

	14-11-2002 19:27									#6
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I guess you are right. Therefore:
I voted "A combination of 2 or all of the above systems, whichever comes first"

	14-11-2002 19:30									#7
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Pedrunn,
Could you post which systems would you combine? (I should have added that in the original question)

	14-11-2002 19:53									#8
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fixed time and fixed number of turns (BTW: turns is wrongly written terms in one of the 'other' options).

Fixed sections is too subjective. Depends on that current moment, the hour, the number of people, ...

EDIT: So far i would go 4 weeks and 25 turns, yet TBD

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	14-11-2002 20:21									#9
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I go for a time limit - that way we can arrange elections etc. with the knowledge of how long there will be.

	14-11-2002 22:48									#10
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quote: Originally posted by Pedrunn EDIT: So far i would go 4 months and 25 turns, yet TBD

i really hope you mean weeks and not months.

I like four week terms (every month) because that way it fits in well with a judical election. It seems we want to elect the judges first, and then the president and ministers. If we keep the judges election before everyone else, we will always have a panel of judges to rule on the elections.

A horror story wold be if a case began during the election, and the judges began to work on the case, but then the senior judge's term expires and a new judge comes in.

	14-11-2002 23:58									#11
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Er i clicked the wrong one!!!!!
But as you want a clarification how about a change every 3 rainy sundays in a row
can i recast my vote please?

	15-11-2002 05:27									#12
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quote: Originally posted by H Tower i really hope you mean weeks and not months.

Oops, I meant weeks indeed!

	15-11-2002 15:26									#13
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for me combination of weeks OR turns, whatever expires first, but no option

	15-11-2002 20:53									#14
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I think a long period is good, especially if you consider how long the elections does take, but it shouldn't be too long therefore I voted for 6 weeks.

The problem with a fixed number of turns is that you have at the beginnig actual nothing to do, so the first 100 turn are very fast and we could end with two terms in the first two weeks. If we decide to make it turn dependent then we have the problem if our orders last for more then the specified number of turn.

-Martin

	15-11-2002 23:06									#15
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Seconding Lemmy. A month is ample time. Thats 1/12 of a year Not that short.

	16-11-2002 06:06									#16
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how am i the only one who wanted turn-based terms....
and whats a session........

	16-11-2002 09:46									#17
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quote: Originally posted by HuangShang and whats a session........

a session is a series of turns that the president plays inbetween asking the ministers, (and the people) for advice

	17-11-2002 23:22									#18
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thanx H Tower
i wonder how many turns r in a month

	18-11-2002 00:04									#19
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quote: Originally posted by HuangShang i wonder how many turns r in a month

it can vary from month to month, president to president, and cabinet to cabinet.

if its the begining of the game, not much is going on, so the pres can play a lot of turns without asking for new orders. but later in the game things get tricky and more decisions need to be made.

some presidents may stretch the ministers' orders and play a few extra turns per round.

and some ministers' give really detailed, long ranging plans, and others don't have such detailed reports.

	19-11-2002 00:47									#20
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I say a minimum of 1 month or 20 turns what ever comes second.

	19-11-2002 00:49									#21
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I voted 25 turns though I should have said a combination of 2 whatever comes last (four weeks or 25 turns).

	19-11-2002 12:21									#22
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Locutus,

quick question after reading Wise Ass's comment, did you mean with second (in the vote) whatever expires last?

Then I would have a choice .

The only problem, if this option wins we would have to have a new poll about the length?

	20-11-2002 18:56									#23
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Gilgamensch,
Yes, with whatever comes last I meant exactly what Wise Ass proposed.

But it doesn't realy matter as we seem to have an absolute majority voting in favour of a fixed time period, with the 1-month term being the most popular

Child of Thor,
No, you can't recast your vote, but in some cases I (as mod) can change people's votes for them. What did you vote and what did you want to vote?