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40-50 MB is ok! (you can simply .zip the bmps to make it smaller if you want)
if you can make english demo available, it would be excellent!
btw., can you tell us more details: programming language you used, did you do it alone, etc. do you have an english webpage?
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gumuso
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Originally posted by axi
Me and paiktis22? No way!
Anyway, we are only allowed to have one account in Apolyton. If we are caught using a double login, we will be banned by the moderators.
Questions? I have tons of them!
1. Is your map with diamond-shaped tiles, like in the civ-series, or something else (f.e. hexagons)?
Answer : My map is like a chess map.It has squares not diamond.
2. Is your population divided in cities, with a given set of tiles available to exploit around them? Or is it divided in provinces?
Answer : When you build your city in a square you can use its neighboors.and it.(You can use 9 squares)And you can make 9 buildings.(One in one square maximum,if your city isnt neighboor with river,sea or hill.You cant make buildings on them.)Every building can carry 2 citizen for teacher,militaristic engineer ext.Every square can carry 1 citizen to product food,grape,tobacco,wood,mine ext. It means one city's population can be 9*2+9*1=27 maximum
3. Is production managed at the city level or at the civ level?
Answer : In city level.You win money city by city.Example from Paris : 12 gold(production(grape,tobacco,ext))-7gold(warming)+5gold(taxes)-7 gold(science)=Net 3 gold from Paris
4. Is warfare unit-based? How many units are available? Are there different versions of the same basic unit type? Can you use a unit workshop, as in SMAC?
Answer : 24 Units avaible(6 normal soldiers,3 horsed soldiers,4 cannons,3 tanks,6 ships,settler,natives)They dont change after joining game. Of course They all have different abilities.
5. How is science and technological evolution implemented?
Answer : With money for science, with schools,with teachers,with your countrys science ability(For example Italians 5 out of 5,English 4 out of 5,Egypt 5 out of 5,Turks 3 out of 5,Arabics 1 out of 5,Hinds 2 out of 5,Chinese 4 out of 5,Germans 4 out of 5...)With happiness in city ext.
6. How are politics and different government types represented?
Answer : Its diplomacy isnt good enought. You become enemy and fight! But natives collect tax from your cities per 5 or 6 turns.If you dont pay them when they come your city they attack you.
7. Are the civs different in cultural aspects? Is culture used in some special way, as in civ3? Is religion modelled?Every civ have militaristic civ point,scientific civ point and economical civ point.It was not Civ3's idea i thought it before they made Civ3.
8. How does diplomacy work? Like in civ? More advanced or less?
Answer : Its diplomacy isnt good enought. You become enemy and fight! But natives collect tax from your cities per 5 or 6 turns.If you dont pay them when they come your city they attack you.
9. Is there a way to play multiplayer?
Answer : You can play multiple in one computer not with a lot.I dont know how to code to play multiplayer.
10. Do you play on pre-made scenarios, or in a random map?
Answer : Both you can play.You can custom your random map big-small,sea-land,temparature,rainy or ext
oh and the most basic one...
What does "ISTILA" mean? (this is the title of your game in turkish, I assume) |
Answer Of GOOD QUESTION: Capturing enemy city.(invasion)
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gumuso
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I am going to bed i need to sleep it is late in Turkey.Thanx to everyone who explained my post and espicially thanx to replies. I found this site by searching word civilization today, this was my first day in this
site and i am very content.
Iyi geceler! - means good night!
i will look replies when i woke up.
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VetLegion
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2. Is your population divided in cities, with a given set of tiles available to exploit around them? Or is it divided in provinces? |
Answer : When you build your city in a square you can use its neighboors.and it.(You can use 9 squares)And you can make 9 buildings.(One in one square maximum,if your city isnt neighboor with river,sea or hill.You cant make buildings on them.)Every building can carry 2 citizen for teacher,militaristic engineer ext.Every square can carry 1 citizen to product food,grape,tobacco,wood,mine ext. It means one city's population can be 9*2+9*1=27 maximum |
This is pretty radical. in Colonisation (also a Microprose game) city could only exploit 9 squares. Brian Reynolds said in an interview that this was a late change, and that it allowed cities to specialise, instead of having everything in every city.
It will be interesting to see how this works out in your game.
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Originally posted by axi
(neonext is the creator of the civiliza project, a civ2 clone which is still in alpha status) |
Nice to know it isn't just a secret. BTW, I strongly incourage anyone to try the next version when it is ready (within a week or two). Lots of new features, from diplomacy to scenarios and more. For those of you who haven't heard of my project and want more info, please click on the link in my sig.
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Ron Hiler? Hasn't he resigned from alt.civ. moderator? |
Yes, he has.
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Anayway, the first step is to post details in the Alt.Civs section and in any case stay in Apolyton: this is THE place to be, for anything that has to do with civ-type games. |
Agreed.
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It is known that all big heads of the genre (Sid Meier, Brian Reynolds, Dan Magaha and the Firaxis crew) are frequently browsing Apolyton. |
Yeah, where do you think the new Civ3 "turnless" mode came from?  jk 
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gumuso
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Originally posted by axi
Thanks for the screenshots. I see your game looks alot like civ, something between civ1 and 2 in terms of graphics. Your gameplay used classic elements, yet it encompassed some features not yet implemented in civ-type games (selling commodities, the climate effect, the limited city buildup that VetLegion mentioned and I don't know what else). The good thing is that your gameplay looks complete. I think that you need to do three things, before you can make the game marketable.
1. A graphics upgrade. Your graphics have to be original (you can't go on borrowing graphics from here and there). They have to be tailored to look coherent and give your game a special style.
2. Addition of multiplayer. I don;t know how easy this is, but it is essential, specially if your game is virtually a wargame with trading involved. You may need to seek help on this.
3. Extensive playtesting and polishing of gameplay features and AI, to the extent that this is needed. Expert civ players can find their way to victory around every AI and gameplay glitch available. Your goal is to make this difficult, otherwise players will lose interst quickly. Your game has to be as challenging as possible in order to succeed. |
 I woke up again.
I am good at codding AI. Because I learnt a lot of algorithms to join computer olympics at Finland one year before. My AI usually wins the match between me and it. Also my game's other differences from civ serie :
* All civilization have civ points in militaristic,in science in economy.So these civ points help developing in this area.For example civ points of Italy;
5 out of 5 in science
3 out of 5 in militaristic
4 out of 5 in economy.
* If you chose Chinese , Russians or Indians your population rises fastly and you can make your city cheaper.
* There are prices for city building. For example Turks pay 30 Golds to build their city but Indians pay 20 Golds to build their city. So you cant build everywhere city. And city capturing's importance increases. If you havent got enought money you cant build your city.
* You can discover mines at mountains. You examine mountains with key ' i ' and there is a probability for discovering mine. You send your settler to mountain and push ' i ' and sometimes you find iron or copper or gold mine. They all have different values. For example iron is usually 5, copper is usually 7 , gold is usually 24
food is u.ly 1 , cotton is u.ly 2 , tobacco is u.ly 3.
* You product cigarett (cost u.ly 12)e from tobacco , jacket (cost u.ly 20) from cotton and fur , wine (cost u.ly 15) from grapes. So you can sell them expansive after process them.But you must build factory to your city.
* There are native cities and they collect money from you in 5-6 turns.If you dont give they attack you.
And lots lots lots 
But i thing my games graphic quality is between civ2 and civ3 ; not civ1 and civ2. Civ2 only has diamond shaped map , it is not important = shape of map. For example Imperialism game square map tiles too. But its graphics are good too. I havent put city table yet to my site but i will add my city table 7 hours later.The most interesting part of my game is it. Because it has more details than all others. 
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VetLegion
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I am good at codding AI. Because I learnt a lot of algorithms to join computer olympics at Finland one year before. My AI usually wins the match between me and it. |
Your AI beats you? Amazing. Does it get production, food and other bonuses? Does it cheat, and how much if yes?
You say it casually, but if you made a good AI this may be the best feature of your game. AI is the week spot of many civ games, to the point that Civ 3 was designed and produced basicly around the 'is this feature manageable by AI' idea. They tailored the game so they could be able to make AI for it.
So this is quite a big issue 
and I asked for how much do you mean selling it, I should have been more clear: How much are you going to charge it? In dollars, how much will it cost?
If you plant to market the game at 30-40 US $, like other new games do you have huge amount of work to do for anyone to buy it.
If you plan to sell it for 5 $, then you have less expectations to fill and you have less work to do
Or you could make it shareware with a couple dollars registration for a full version
I suggest english demo first and then you see what response you get and decide what to do
Some of your concepts, like paying for cities sound interesting, but there is really no point in commenting them until I try it out, so hurry with the demo
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gumuso
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Originally posted by VetLegion
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I am good at codding AI. Because I learnt a lot of algorithms to join computer olympics at Finland one year before. My AI usually wins the match between me and it. |
Your AI beats you? Amazing. Does it get production, food and other bonuses? Does it cheat, and how much if yes?
You say it casually, but if you made a good AI this may be the best feature of your game. AI is the week spot of many civ games, to the point that Civ 3 was designed and produced basicly around the 'is this feature manageable by AI' idea. They tailored the game so they could be able to make AI for it.
So this is quite a big issue
and I asked for how much do you mean selling it, I should have been more clear: How much are you going to charge it? In dollars, how much will it cost?
If you plant to market the game at 30-40 US $, like other new games do you have huge amount of work to do for anyone to buy it.
If you plan to sell it for 5 $, then you have less expectations to fill and you have less work to do
Or you could make it shareware with a couple dollars registration for a full version
I suggest english demo first and then you see what response you get and decide what to do
Some of your concepts, like paying for cities sound interesting, but there is really no point in commenting them until I try it out, so hurry with the demo |
*AI finds good places and build their city
*AI connect its cities with road
*AI makes irragilations near its city
*AI defends its cities and mafe fortififty more soldiers in its important cities.
*AI attack to enemies espicially to important cities.
*AI product all it can it product tobacco,builds tobacco-cigarette factory.Put workers to factory and it products cigarette and sell expensive and it earns more gold.
*AI product defensive soldiers if it need or it products attacker soldiers if it need.
*AI controls tax-science expenses ext.
*AI choose best sciences to develop its civ early.
*AI uses productive lands,find out mines in mountains or try to find,it cut forests if it need.
*AI can do what i can do
*And it is computer=no mistake & hurry
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16-11-2002 02:33
But i am sure that if i can translate you will get a lot of enjoy with game because i have all civ serie but i am only playing Istila.Because i 
my game.
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