16-11-2002 20:31									#1
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Does polution help or hurt your enjoyment of Civ 3, or do you care?

	16-11-2002 21:59									#2
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It gives something for your workers to do when your empire is all built up.

	16-11-2002 22:05									#3
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Is there a key to put a worker on Automatic Pollution Clean Up only?

	16-11-2002 22:21									#4
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If you could tell workers to stay on Clean up pollution, and they wouldn't wake up whenever the country was clean, it would be fine.

Having to keep a worker force ready and then push them to the pollution when it does show up is a terrible idea of fun.

	16-11-2002 22:26									#5
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I'm not sure about Civ3 because I never produced that much pollution in my games. But in my current game in Play the World my automated workers are cleaning pollution. But anyway, I like having pollution be important.

	16-11-2002 22:30									#6
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Shift-P will do the trick

1 thing, I really would have liked some countermeasures, forests should lower global warming (proven IRL or not).

	16-11-2002 22:39									#7
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quote: Shift-P will do the trick

I thought I remembered reading some keys worked. Thanks.

	16-11-2002 22:55									#8
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The only thing I really dislike about pollution is remembering to go back to the nearby city in order to put a worker back on the cleaned-up tile.

	16-11-2002 23:00									#9
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I like pollution in the game. It surely hurts you when you have a big industrial powerforce. I only wish it could be reduced by some countermeasures, as alva said.

	16-11-2002 23:06									#10
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Recycling and mass transit pretty much eliminate it.

	16-11-2002 23:49									#11
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I would like a worker function that automated the worker until pollution appeared, then the worker would immediatly cease work and clean up the pollution.

Besides that, the system is pretty good. I wish global warming has a more severe effect, though.

	17-11-2002 00:57									#12
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I hate pollution and have since civ2, but at least you could terraform the damag of Global Warming.

	17-11-2002 02:53									#13
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quote: Originally posted by cyclotron7 I wish global warming has a more severe effect, though.

I've got an all desert world save or 2 lying around. I think it can be pretty severe (not as bad as SMAC though).

	17-11-2002 07:09									#14
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Shift-P will send workers to pollution to clean it, and when they finish they will look for more. If there is more, they go about their business. If there isn't, then you have to give them commands.

If Shift-P would make them go into sentry mode in a nearby city until pollution showed up then the tedium of the late game would be reduced.

Pollution as a force that curbs the growth of the empire and brings a dark side to massivly producing cities is good. Pollution as a busy work inducing mass off orange goo that forces the player to put settlers to sleep until there is pollution is bad.

	17-11-2002 07:51									#15
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quote: Originally posted by WarpStorm I've got an all desert world save or 2 lying around. I think it can be pretty severe (not as bad as SMAC though).

Did it start that way, or did pollution create it?

	17-11-2002 08:25									#16
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One thing annoys me about pollution: its graphics. I hate that orange goo. Is there a graphic mod that alters pollution?

	17-11-2002 09:25									#17
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quote: Originally posted by cyclotron7 Did it start that way, or did pollution create it?

Global Warming. It started as a normal world. Let your global warming indicator get into the red zone and you too can be the proud owner of lots of desert. In the game I'm thinking of at least 20 tiles a turn degraded towards desert .

	17-11-2002 14:01									#18
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Pollution is the price of growth. Civ is a game about give and take. Sometimes you have to control your growth until you're in a position to deal with the pollution it causes. I don't really like pollution, just accept it. Hate the orange goo, though. Maybe a graphic of discarded beer cans and dead fish?

	17-11-2002 22:30									#19
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Changing the graphics of pollution shouldn't be too hard. There's probably some graphic mod for it in the files section.

	17-11-2002 22:52									#20
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Pollution in Civ 3 is IMO kinda screwed. By the time pollution kicks in, you have got an army of workers that has probably finished optimizing your land. You just set two dozen Workers to auto-pollution cleaning, and that's all. Sometimes I will have 100+ automated workers resting in my cities with nothing to do that will clean any pollutiont that appears immediately. That way, I find it kinda boring.

	18-11-2002 11:02									#21
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Without the auto-clear-pollution this consumes a lot of time... thus I don't like pollution...

I think the pollution should be something you cannot handle at all.

When city reaches certain size and has certain improvements (factories for instance), the disease and crop failures should increase, thus making it more difficult for the city grow.

	18-11-2002 12:48									#22
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Pollution itdelf isn't so bad...but this global warming nonsense has to go!