19-11-2002 23:41									#31
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Hey, we're ringers for something: we follow orders, and kill everyone in sight

Nah, as said before, not at this time, I would damage the action here... better to leave it for those with experience.

DeepO

	20-11-2002 02:57									#32
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We need a Tactical leader. I would do so myself if I wasn't already going to campaign for Diplomatic Chief....
....although maybe I should go Tactical as well and take 2/3rd's power of the Scholas..... hehehe.....

Ok that too is also a threat. If nobody steps forward soon I'm going to stage a coup de' tat.

just kidding but really someone step up to the plate...

	20-11-2002 03:14									#33
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The problem with the "ringers" is that few (none?) of us have MP experience or (more importantly) demogame experience. We're the strategy forum junkies.

-Arrian

	20-11-2002 03:15									#34
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Edit: forget it.

Last edited by FrustratedPoet on 20-11-2002 at 04:16

	20-11-2002 05:53									#35
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I was just looking for an excuse to call you guys "ringers"

I thought it was hysterical when Dongeal (sp?) accused NYE and SR of rigging the teams with important Pros/"ringers"... I think we all know who's really overly concerned about winning . Remember this is the guy who made a dramatic large type set post stating that he had recruited "the legendary UberKruX" ...

Bringing unrelated outsiders (i.e. form the site's strategy forum) via sly underhanded dealings (i.e. PMs). ahhh drama

	20-11-2002 08:23									#36
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I don't have much interest in MP either, other than the C3DG. So this is a new experience for me as well....

FP I'm curious to what you may have had to say....

	20-11-2002 08:24									#37
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quote: Originally posted by Meshelic FP I'm curious to what you may have had to say....

Very mysterious, I think he was proclaiming his love for the role players.

	20-11-2002 08:31									#38
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Hey Asleep, that's the 3rd GS' you today

	20-11-2002 08:42									#39
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Note atw's avatar. Hockey is a contact sport. Good thing he is treating this as 'house league'. You don't want to see full contact with a weak stomach.

	20-11-2002 08:51									#40
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We still need a 3rd Grand Poobah (Deputy GP I suppose) and a Tactical Chief.... and every other race is still a one man affair....

	23-11-2002 06:19									#41
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I'd like to throw my hat in the ring for Chief of the Economic Schola. I tend to view the economic and scientific aspects of the game, and especially the use of the luxury slider to get high production in the early game, as my strong suits.

Nathan

	23-11-2002 06:33									#42
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I will step up for election for the Chief Tactician role, AKA Master of the Spartan Academy.

Two things though: 1) I definitely need some schooling in how DemoGames are best conducted, and what I need to be doing, and 2) I want to unofficially share the role with Arrian (if that's OK with him).

Fair warning: as my "election platform," people should be aware of and / or think through my likely recommendations to the Grand Poobah, especially in the early game.

	23-11-2002 06:36									#43
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Ah Finally we have a Tactical Chief.

Nowhere does it say in our threads that you can't share the position with someone else!

	23-11-2002 07:15									#44
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus Fair warning: as my "election platform," people should be aware of and / or think through my likely recommendations to the Grand Poobah, especially in the early game.

Early warmongering could be a lot more dangerous in MP than it is in SP. The attacker has the advantage of being able to choose the initial point of attack, but the defender generally has a considerable advantage in terms of mobility and in terms of getting newly built units to the front more quickly. Think of the kinds of tricks you use to blunt AI attacks, and then imagine another human player using them on us. Worse, consider, for example, what would happen if we and Glory of War would slug it out in a long, inconclusive fight while the Legolanders keep building.

I'm not against going on the offensive if we get in a situation where we have a clear advantage. But if our starting position lets us, I'd rather build our economy (while maintianing adequate forces to give us flexibility) and bide our time until a good opportunity presents itself. The ideal times for a fight would be if we outnumber an enemy or if we can join in a war where one rival has already been injured by another.

Yes, I know this sort of discussion would normally belong on the Spartan Academy thread, but since it goes to Theseus's platform and fitness for office (I'm not saying he's unfit, just trying to make sure he's ready to adapt his techniques appropriately for MP), I'm posting here. (And yes, it also speaks to my philosophy and platform as candidate to lead the Adam Smith Foundation.)

Nathan

	23-11-2002 17:09									#45
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Nathan, you have a point when it comes to early combat being a lot trickier than in SP, however we need to have something that puts us ahead of the other teams if we want to have a comfortable position. As all teams have good SP players, it will be very hard to do it in a builder way: if there is no AI to bash, we will at best stay moderate. With caution, early warfare could win this game.

That said, I think both of you will be good chiefs, I'm a huge fan of early warfare as well, so Theseus would be someone who has my vote (well, if I decide to join the Spartan academy), while my building preferences will be well represented if you take office. A nice balance, I would say, even if many discussions are bound to happen between you two

DeepO

	24-11-2002 01:03									#46
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Now that we have a real candidate, that I'm sure everyone will prefer, I withdrawal my "statement of willingness" to take the econ chief position.

	24-11-2002 01:06									#47
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you weren't a real candidate before?

I think you should run anyways, it'll make things more interesting in the days leading up to the game..

	24-11-2002 01:25									#48
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While I am a proponent of early war, I'm not a raving psychotic b@stard.

( that's my official campaign motto!)

Any warfare recommendations will be tempered by 1) the overall balance of the game, and 2) our relative strength, whether at the unit level or via number of applicable units.

We've got a long way to go before we will have all the relevant and necesssary info.

	24-11-2002 06:09									#49
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus While I am a proponent of early war, I'm not a raving psychotic b@stard. ( that's my official campaign motto!)

Good campaign motto. The tricky thing is, how do we know the balance of forces when considering a prospective war? My impression is that it takes a pretty significant difference before the advisor says one side outnumbers the other.

	24-11-2002 07:05									#50
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Should we begin the polling to make it all official?

Too bad we don't have any election battles.

	24-11-2002 07:08									#51
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Looks like it's Theseus and nbarclay by acclamation. That would be the same for you, would it not Mesh?

I do not see a need for extra threads to decide decisions already made. Does anyone else?

	24-11-2002 07:35									#52
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quote: Originally posted by notyoueither Looks like it's Theseus and nbarclay by acclamation. That would be the same for you, would it not Mesh?

Muwuahahaha!

	24-11-2002 11:53									#53
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So shall we proclaim our first Term government then?

We're still missing a 3rd Poobah, but I don't foresee very many times when both notyoueither and SirRalph are out of commission at the same time. Still though, I am willing to step forward as Deputy Poobah if no one else can or wants to. JUST in case. Or we can leave the Deputy Poobah position open as an emergency position appointed by the Grand Poobah...

	24-11-2002 12:10									#54
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We have SO many good players...

I suggest leaving #3 open, and at the discretion of the GP and subject to who's available at the time.

We are f-cking scary... it'll be interesting to see how much starting terrain and neighbors impact success.

	24-11-2002 12:35									#55
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Sounds good Theseus.

You know, I never really did stop to think about the talents of the members that joined here, but we do have one really really good team. Very solid. I'm also surprised that everyone has been as agreeable as they've been. I'm sure that this may change in certain circumstances later in the game, but so far everyone's been really cool and have contributed some really good ideas and opinions.

I'm proud to be a member of this team. We're going to rule!

	25-11-2002 03:20									#56
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quote: I'm proud to be a member of this team. We're going to rule!

Fine words indeed.

Long live the Gathering storm!



this time i got the name right...

	25-11-2002 11:54									#57
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quote: Originally posted by zeit ... Long live the Gathering storm! ...

There is a paradox in that... It kinda approaches infinity

Mss

	25-11-2002 20:19									#58
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Theseus,

Though it appears to be a done deal already, I'm fine with sharing the tactical chieftainship with you. One of us should be available when needed.

-Arrian

	25-11-2002 20:30									#59
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quote: Originally posted by Arrian Theseus, Though it appears to be a done deal already, I'm fine with sharing the tactical chieftainship with you. One of us should be available when needed. -Arrian

Hehe...

That was about time .