20-11-2002 02:59									#31
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The way i see the executive branch being filled is:

1) The nominees for any ministrial (or presidancy) post can come from any school, so that everyone gets a chance to serve as any minister. elections are held every 50 days (or anything else between 1-2 months). Minister are the team members who serve as the executive branch that have the real auothrity in the game (and perhaps even outside the game- as far as foreign affairs goes, but that is to be discussed)

2) The 3 Scholas each has a leader- his role is to supervise the discussions and other efforts of his school members, the leader is chosen by the scholars of his schools. He is to recieve reports and keep his ears close to the ground. He is to compile reports of the works of his school, and make sure the appropriate minister(s) recieve these reprts and take them into consideration.
He must also make sure his scholars are notified of the precise actions taken by the minister who are relevant to his schola's field of study.

3) The schola leaders themselves are checked by the school members, who are able to impeach a leader if he fails to act upon the prinicipals stated above.

I should also add, that any minister should be encouraged to choose deputies from the appropriate school, and that no minister could

IMO, this outline of principals combines some of the ideas that were raised here, and i think serves both interests of those who favor schola oriented administration, and also those who see the two bodies (schola and executive branch) as sepertaed entities.

	20-11-2002 03:02									#32
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Ambassadors or not....it's an important issue but in a way I feel inclined to think that ambassador style issues should fall to the Poobah Diplomat. It means a bit more work, but one person (or 1 person with a volunteer deputy) will eventually have a better idea of the overall situation than if there were 5 or 6 guys running around doing diplomatic missions....

I'm for those duties falling to the executive Diplomat.
Although I believe that appointing a Deputy to help the Chief gather resources and info is a good idea as well....

	20-11-2002 03:31									#33
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Both sides on the ambassador debate have points.

The head of the Diplomats must have a handle on the overall situation. Are reports of contacts from ambassadors enough?

I hope so, because we really do need to allow for participation by those interested or their interest will wane.

Hopefully this can be resolved in a way that is satisfactory to all. BTW, who would want to be an ambassador as of now?

	20-11-2002 08:13									#34
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Well put notyoueither.

My angle on this is just the level of involvement so far for the Diplomacy Schola. ....it's been pretty short of members generally.

I say that if there is enough demand where members here would like Ambassador-like status to speak with another team privately and represent our team, then I have no problem with that whatsoever. I think it's a good idea actually.

But I don't think there will be enough support personally. Some people will be coming and going, and some have stated that they'd rather not hold an 'executive' position and would just rather be a part of the whole debate process....which leads me to believe that some would rather not lead but be more a part of the group as a whole...

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	20-11-2002 08:14									#35
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But if the interest is there, then by all means let them participate any way they want!

	20-11-2002 08:30									#36
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quote: Originally posted by alva848 forgot: I don't think leaders( be it ministers or Poobah's ) should communicate to other teams directly. Except on very important occasion maybe.

I can live with that, mostly.

There may be times though that we want the team 'captains' to gather to get things done. We did that once very early in the process. That conversation (chat) went a long ways towards getting a lot of things settled. The Rock, Paper, Scissors came from that (you're welcome )

I would do my best to brief all of you should another one come about. On that note...

	20-11-2002 14:25									#37
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Speaking of chats, when are we going to hold another one?