19-11-2002 00:56									#1
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There appears to be a small push towards having the game be all-human teams. No AI, just 8 human teams.

This opens an intriguing possibility, what if we split, maybe stage a public fight claiming unreconcilable differences.

Then, instead of a secret alliance, we could secretly control two teams. Attack and destroy from two different directions.

If we did this I would suggest another Oriental civ in case we started in culturally linked positions or perhaps a civ with a later era UU. The first assault by the Chinese and the later assault by the secondary civ.

(See, this is what happens when no games are being played. I start thinking and plotting. We need to get this game going pronto! )

	19-11-2002 01:24									#2
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I hadn't seen this push, personally.

While this is inherantly interesting, how would it not become transparent, though? Would it not become obvious if we split down the middle? And how would we gain new members without them spilling this information should they not like it?

Beyond that:

'This teams obvious lack of morals or any form of honor have brought me to question my very involvement. What 'Glory' is there if we cannot agree to at least some form of civility? I hereby renounce this team and their ideals in favor of a more honorable, yet still warlike, team that will take their actions into account and hold honor above all else!'

How's that?

	19-11-2002 02:27									#3
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It will work if we chose two very different names, such as the Glory of War, and say, the Splendor of Conflict.

	19-11-2002 02:46									#4
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx I hadn't seen this push, personally.

There are 2 new teams trying to form on the main site.

quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx 'This teams obvious lack of morals or any form of honor have brought me to question my very involvement. What 'Glory' is there if we cannot agree to at least some form of civility? I hereby renounce this team and their ideals in favor of a more honorable, yet still warlike, team that will take their actions into account and hold honor above all else!' How's that?

What lack of morals? Have you never heard of Survivor. All the winners were apart of pacts from the beginning. Working together insures a better chance of survival there is nothing unethical about it.

Now playing ahead, etc is an extreme no-no. I would leave at that point myself.

	19-11-2002 02:54									#5
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have some honor about you GF. please. :P

	19-11-2002 17:30									#6
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Okay, my bad. I am completely unhonorable, I hereby withdraw my name from consideration from any elrctive positon.

	19-11-2002 19:18									#7
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I was giving an example of a public fight, not actually saying that...

Anyone feel we could influence one of the two teams and mold them into our needs?

	20-11-2002 04:15									#8
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx I was giving an example of a public fight, not actually saying that... Anyone feel we could influence one of the two teams and mold them into our needs?

I think the roleplay team would enjoy being a vassal state. Ever since I mentioned I might get booted out there have been several teams trying to recruit me...

Seriously, I half way thought about stating that the GoW kicked me out for lack of Honor and attempting to start a Mercenary team that doesn't try to win, just affect the other teams and would hire out to any of the other human civs to attack anyone else if the money was right.

Kinda like the Hessians.

	20-11-2002 06:28									#9
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I was thinking of that too, actually. A mercenary squad would be pretty fun. Anything for the right $...

	20-11-2002 07:22									#10
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx I was thinking of that too, actually. A mercenary squad would be pretty fun. Anything for the right $...

Maybe we can make the GoW be that. It fits in with our philosophy. Let GS have the rep for being the world conquest warmongers, we are simple mercenaries that will assist the other teams against their enemies for the right $ amount.

Then at the end we turn World Conquest on them.......

	21-11-2002 20:05									#11
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Damn! What kind of Characters did I get myself mixed up with!!!

	21-11-2002 23:29									#12
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quote: Originally posted by donegeal Damn! What kind of Characters did I get myself mixed up with!!!

Characters that WIN
Aggie

	22-11-2002 05:11									#13
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If everyone can view us as a potential military asset to augment their own forces then they will concentrate on taking out others and plan to use us as auxiliary.

We simply siphon a little off everybody and combine it for our own purposes.

	22-11-2002 10:03									#14
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Good idea, we can be called in"for a price ". pillage kill, the usual take cities that can produce and an occasional wonder. Our price could be the techs to allow the attack. For example we'll promise civ a to devote all production to riders) in exchange for chivarly and another tech. In return we'll give them a military.
Aggie

	22-11-2002 10:14									#15
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I concur. a Merc role would be very beneficial, but let us not get typecast into it, we must keep an agenda secret from our "employers", and we should neccessarily take merc jobs that go against the general flow of our plans.

	22-11-2002 10:16									#16
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since we cant GIVE them a military (no unit trades) we could say "we'll fight this war for these techs and 20 gold per turn".


be wary though, if they break the deal (even peacefully, like after a set # of turns) we may still be at war with the other civ.

we should watch out for people trying to mess us up. maybe we should take upfront "down payments"

	22-11-2002 11:36									#17
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quote: Originally posted by UberKruX I concur. a Merc role would be very beneficial, but let us not get typecast into it, we must keep an agenda secret from our "employers", and we should neccessarily take merc jobs that go against the general flow of our plans.

Actually, part of my reasoning was to become typecast that way. I want the other players to view us as Mercenanaries and less as another team.

quote: Originally posted by UberKruX since we cant GIVE them a military (no unit trades) we could say "we'll fight this war for these techs and 20 gold per turn". be wary though, if they break the deal (even peacefully, like after a set # of turns) we may still be at war with the other civ. we should watch out for people trying to mess us up. maybe we should take upfront "down payments"

Exactly, so much upfront, so much per turn, and these are the spoils we want for ourselves.

If any civ backed out we simply declare peace ourselves. The idea is to foster the concept that we aren't fighting you because we want to take you out we are fighting you because our employer wants to take you out. Nothing personal, its strictly business.

Take out our employer and we will stop too.

If this strategy is the consensus we should start letting it be known to the outsiders.

	22-11-2002 18:30									#18
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well GF, why not :P lol!!! still wouldn't be very honourable, really.. but if you're on it im with ya.. i guess.. depends.. GoW isn't very big team in numbers.. so it would be way to small if we split in two, not? but i dont really know.. if you guys are going for it i guess u'll have my support but personal i think we should stay put.. the idea isn't a very bad one tho..

	22-11-2002 20:17									#19
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Lets do it. Will be fun, will (potentially) take attention away from us, and could prove quite profitable.

I can just see some member of the RolePlaying team paying us to pillage another member's holdings...


I can start some 'adds' in public, and in my sig...

let's see:

"Need help kicking Trip's ass? Want to maintain your 'builder' identity while crushing your enemies?

Glory of War has your answer! Our mercenaries will lay waste to any opponent at any time...for a price. Contact any member to get the latest pricing deals, mention this add and get 10% off the first city captured!!!"

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	22-11-2002 20:44									#20
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quote: Originally posted by UnOrthOdOx "Need help kicking Trip's ass? Want to maintain your 'builder' identity while crushing your enemies? Glory of War has your answer! Our mercenaries will lay waste to any opponent at any time...for a price. Contact any member to get the latest pricing deals, mention this add and get 10% off the first city captured!!!"

I like it!

	22-11-2002 22:54									#21
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You sure your not a writter? This actually sounds like a neat idea. And with more teams joining, more plausable.

	23-11-2002 00:32									#22
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Yeah, thats great!! So, is anyone against this idea, and if not, when do we start publicizing it?

	06-12-2002 02:30									#23
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Do we need the money in the early game? After we get the 4 ancient military techs we should start thinking PRODUCTION. We can coast technologically for a while, and wait for the costs of technology to go down, then get back in the tech game with our large empire.