19-11-2002 09:17									#1
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I'd like to start a PBEM game for 4 players on a small map, everything else random with regent difficulty.

I would like it to be ~1 turn/day and maybe a little slower like 5 turns/wk. Hopefully we can crank out the turns in the beginning and then slow it down later.

If this sounds like something you're interested in post here or email me.

sirosis@hotmail.com

Looking forward to some human players!

	19-11-2002 20:24									#2
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I'll play

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	19-11-2002 20:58									#3
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Ok that's one. I also wanted to mention that I would like it that there is no negotiations until our civs meet.

Waiting for 2 more. Let's get this started today.

	19-11-2002 21:56									#4
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I'll play:

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I assume you mean that even the civs are random. That is fine with me. If you did not mean random civs, then I want the Chinese.

	19-11-2002 22:33									#5
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I would like to play as well. Sent you email to sirosis@hotmail.com.

	19-11-2002 22:36									#6
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I'd like to join.

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	19-11-2002 22:37									#7
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quote: Waiting for 2 more.

Can we play with 5 players then?

	19-11-2002 22:53									#8
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Delmar, I haven't received your email yet. Please resend or post your email address on here.

If there are no objections we could have 5 players. Once I get Delmar's email I will set it up and send it off.

Random civs too.


Turn order:
1- Sirosis
2- SpencerH
3- Brizey
4- delmar
5- Eli (?)

	19-11-2002 23:01									#9
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I wont be home until 1630 Apolyton time, but if there's a .sav waiting I'll play and send immediately.

	19-11-2002 23:32									#10
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quote: Originally posted by SirOsis Delmar, I haven't received your email yet. Please resend or post your email address on here.

Sent a PM. I could play right now for an hour or around 6pm PST for 2-3 hours.

	19-11-2002 23:34									#11
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH I wont be home until 1630 Apolyton time.

Apologies for the newbie question: how does Apolyton time relate to time zones, like e.g. PST (GMT -8)?

	19-11-2002 23:39									#12
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I'm also free for a couple hours now, and most of the day tommorow.

	19-11-2002 23:40									#13
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quote: Originally posted by delmar Apologies for the newbie question: how does Apolyton time relate to time zones, like e.g. PST (GMT -8)?

Never mind, found it.

	20-11-2002 00:03									#14
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This game will begin ~6 hrs from now.

Good luck!

	20-11-2002 00:04									#15
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I usually check my e-mail and can play a round at the following times (in Apolyton time):

8:30 to 9:00

1:00 to 2:00

8:00 to 11:00

(all on weekdays)

My weekend times vary a bit more.

	20-11-2002 00:08									#16
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quote: Originally posted by SirOsis I also wanted to mention that I would like it that there is no negotiations until our civs meet.

Will there be other rules as well? For example, do you have to declare war formally (in email) or you just move up to the nearest unit/city and attack?

And how do we keep track of reputation (e.g. breaking treaties, especially RoP)?

	20-11-2002 00:24									#17
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How many treaties are you planning to break?

	20-11-2002 00:43									#18
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quote: And how do we keep track of reputation (e.g. breaking treaties, especially RoP)?

Our own memory. The reputation index in SP games is there only for the AI.
After all, we all follow the developments in the game and i'm sure you'll be more suspicious about players who broke treaties, which is the whole point of reputation.

	20-11-2002 01:01									#19
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quote: I also wanted to mention that I would like it that there is no negotiations until our civs meet.

You cant enforce it, but you wont need to. Such negotiations will serve no purpose.

Btw, why random civs?
If we turn civ specific abilities off then it's ok, but if they're on I think we should all choose the civilizations we play with.

	20-11-2002 02:59									#20
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I wanted random civs because I think it adds more variety to the game with not knowing what civ you will be. As for the negotiations, I just didn't want alliances forming before the civs met.

This is my first PBEM so it will be a learning experience for me. Will send the first turn in a few hours.

	20-11-2002 06:08									#21
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Ok. The first turn has been sent to SpencerH. Here are the civs:

1- Sirosis - Ottomans
2- SpencerH - English
3- Brizey - Babylonians
4- delmar - Mongols
5- Eli - Greeks

	20-11-2002 06:33									#22
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quote: Originally posted by SpencerH How many treaties are you planning to break?

Me?!? None!

	20-11-2002 06:42									#23
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quote: Originally posted by Eli quote: And how do we keep track of reputation (e.g. breaking treaties, especially RoP)? Our own memory. The reputation index in SP games is there only for the AI. After all, we all follow the developments in the game and i'm sure you'll be more suspicious about players who broke treaties, which is the whole point of reputation.

I guess I should have been more precise: how will you know about it if someone else breaks a treaty with a third party? Maybe even before you meet one or maybe both of them?

Or for that matter how will you know who started a war (if it's not against you)?

I am thinking that we should have a thread where such events could be posted. I assume everyone has the guts to tell the truth if he breaks a treaty, and we won't end up in a situation where both parties say that the other one started the shooting...

	20-11-2002 06:58									#24
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The English, aaaargghhhh!

On to Brizey

	20-11-2002 08:29									#25
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Moo. Moo.

4000 BC to delmar.

	20-11-2002 08:42									#26
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quote: Originally posted by delmar I guess I should have been more precise: how will you know about it if someone else breaks a treaty with a third party? Maybe even before you meet one or maybe both of them? Or for that matter how will you know who started a war (if it's not against you)? I am thinking that we should have a thread where such events could be posted. I assume everyone has the guts to tell the truth if he breaks a treaty, and we won't end up in a situation where both parties say that the other one started the shooting...

Well, if there is a war with me it is obvious who precipitated it. The other guy! I'm peace lovin!

	20-11-2002 08:57									#27
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4000 BC sent to Eli.

	20-11-2002 11:56									#28
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I received no email. Are you sure you sent to the correct adress? Maybe you forgot to remove the underscore.

	20-11-2002 12:20									#29
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I removed the underscore and I also didn't receive an error notification saying the email couldn't be delivered. However, you are not the first who says that doesn't receive my email. So, I'll try to post the save to this thread.

Edit: attachment deleted.

Last edited by delmar on 27-11-2002 at 01:16

	20-11-2002 13:05									#30
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Game sent to Sirosis.