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MRT144
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Seattle Washington
Oct 2002
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id like to see a muslim army get on boats and come to america en masse with fruitbats and all
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This represented 60-70% of Iraq's OPEC quota. Then all he could smuggle above and beyond that was gravy. |
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Through the "new" oil-for-food program, he can sell as much as he wants, just as long as it's for food and medicine. And he's outputting about 2 million barrels of oil a day--100% of his OPEC quota. |
Oil-for-food doesnt' even begin to address the rampant and severe health problems inflicted upon the Iraqi people by the sanctions. The wholesale destruction of vital infrastructure and the severe poverty inflicted far outstrip the abilities of oil-for-food running at full capacity. You can read about it here.
Exactly how moral is it that the Iraqi people have suffered the worst set of sanctions in modern history due solely to Saddam's defiance? Your line of reasoning seems to suggest that the Iraqi people can, and should, suffer as much as possible due to Hussein's defiance.
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Let me guess. You also believe that Gulf War I wasn't Saddam's fault. Or the Iran-Iraq War. |
Nice try.....
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This guy is bad news. |
...and his people should suffer hardships that border on atrocity because of it. But's it all his fault, right??
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DanS
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Kickball Capital of the World
Jan 1970
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OK, I guess you now admit that your numbers bear no relation to reality.
The arguments made on the site you referenced are basically economic. Because of the war, the Iraqi economy collapsed, which led to a widespread reduction in the standard of living. Of course, this is true. But you must realize that even the proceeds from 2 million barrels a day of oil (Iraq's OPEC quota) would not have maintained Iraq's standard of living, even if it would provide for the basic necessities of life. Iraq pissed away all of the investments in basic infrastructure it had made over the previous decades.
Do I like the fact that Iraq had to climb out of a hole? No. But the cause of all of this had little to do with what the outside world did. Rather, it was caused by the Iraqi attack on Kuwait and Saddam's steadfast refusal to give up the territory.
To shift the blame to everybody else is just swallowing Saddam's propaganda whole.
Last edited by DanS on 20-11-2002 at 23:31
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chegitz guevara
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Ft. Lauderdale, FL Communist Party of Apolyton
Jun 2000
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Originally posted by DanS
All Saddam's fault. If he wanted his people fed, he could have done so easily. |
Food's not the real problem. It's the bad water and poor hospitals.
As Scott Ritter points out, in the last few years, they weren't finding anything new, but the new the Iraqis were hiding something. When they uncovered it, it was invariably the hiding place of Saddam, which the Iraqis were naturally cagy about. Since Hussein didn't want to be assassinated, they would hide the information about his where abouts. Because they were hiding something, the inspecters would try and find out what it was. Since the CIA was using the inspecters to collect information, and since the whereabouts of Saddam weren't part of the inspecters mission, the Iraqis had a right to try and withhold that info.
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20-11-2002 06:57
But people like that live their lives by blaming the victim to absolve themselves of the inconvenience of having any responsibility for others in society, be it locally, nationally or globally.
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