23-11-2002 02:06									#31
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If we have a reasonable release date announced on the patch by the time the planned start date rolls around - fine, go ahead and wait for it. Otherwise, we ought to plow forwards and start the game already!

	23-11-2002 02:09									#32
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quote: Originally posted by ixnay37 If we have a reasonable release date announced on the patch by the time the planned start date rolls around - fine, go ahead and wait for it. Otherwise, we ought to plow forwards and start the game already!

hi ,

is it worth the risk of a breakdown , .......

have a nice day

	23-11-2002 11:47									#33
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Here's a wild idea: maybe Firaxis would be willing to give a hint as to whether or not there is likely to be much delay if we wait for the patch. No dates or promises; just their best guess.

Also, what are the odds that this next patch will be the last one? With how long a game like this one is likely to be, odds aren't bad that we'll end up changing patches sometime during the course of the game no matter which version we start with.

	23-11-2002 14:11									#34
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Firaxis hinted some days ago we'll know the availability of the patch "very soon". It's reasonable to think the patch is in its final stage, and will be released within 2 weeks.
It won't be the last patch, except if the game doesn't sell, since it's only about internet problems. Firaxis is aware there are other gameplay lacks, and will try to adress them if it has the money.

	23-11-2002 16:05									#35
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In this case ,abstain means game on, doesn't it?

	23-11-2002 17:39									#36
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As far as I understand, abstain always mean keeping the status quo (i.e victory of the majority when there is one, and keeping what was here before when there is a draw)
But I guess those who want to wait will disagree

	25-11-2002 00:27									#37
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quote: Originally posted by panag hi , is it worth the risk of a breakdown , ....... have a nice day

There is no risk of a breakdown, the patch only patches stuff we aren't going to be using. The patch won't affect us and yet people want to wait for it.

	25-11-2002 01:08									#38
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perhaps if the patch will include "replay enemy move" feature....

	25-11-2002 02:32									#39
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quote: Originally posted by Calc II perhaps if the patch will include "replay enemy move" feature....

VERY interesting idea... set up as VCR, like end of game. That sounds like something (not me ) might be able to come up with a utility for. Maybe we should put that up in the proper forum... Calc

	25-11-2002 03:16									#40
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Btw: chances are the euro version will be 1.11(?) anyway, so everyone will have to patch up.

	25-11-2002 03:32									#41
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quote: Originally posted by alva848 Btw: chances are the euro version will be 1.11(?) anyway, so everyone will have to patch up.

That depends... if the Euro version goes 'gold' before the patch does, then it won't be with the patched version...

	25-11-2002 07:20									#42
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I suspect the delays in the Euro version is so that it can be patched when it comes out. Besides if we get the patch we can play the game online and it can go a lot faster that way.

	25-11-2002 12:39									#43
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I agree. If the patch really does make MP playable (it had better do) then it'd be possible for the captains to meet up each weekend to get several turns completed very quickly.

	25-11-2002 15:38									#44
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hi ,

maybe they just decided to work a bit on it , before they distribute them , .......
ones again they gone make things complicated , they should have stayed with US english , .......... and spend some time on doing it right , instead of 25 languages , ...........

have a nice day

	27-11-2002 04:23									#45
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Sounds like the new patch is out already, so the question is thankfully moot.

	27-11-2002 05:33									#46
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so do we still skick with PBEM or go with online play???

	27-11-2002 05:35									#47
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PBEM. It's not usable online without the patch, and we're not going to wait for it.

	27-11-2002 06:17									#48
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Trip the patch came out toady. You can download it.

	27-11-2002 06:42									#50
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So we are going to still go with PBEM??

	27-11-2002 06:51									#51
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That's what was voted on a long time ago... perhaps the turnchat can be conducted through some form of online play, but for now I think PBEM will be best to remain with.

	27-11-2002 07:19									#52
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www Trip the patch came out toady. You can download it.

So, LI are a bunch of Toadies for the builders?

	27-11-2002 07:49									#53
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And the "Yes" option for waiting for the patch makes a late-game come-back.

	27-11-2002 08:01									#54
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quote: Originally posted by Jack_www Trip the patch came out toady. You can download it.

And he had to scroll past my post, too.

	27-11-2002 08:09									#55
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I usually only check the last post in a thread for hopes of avoiding a topic that's too old.

	27-11-2002 12:56									#56
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So, do we wait for the next patch now?

	27-11-2002 13:08									#57
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quote: Originally posted by alva848 So, do we wait for the next patch now?

ROFL.
Alva, this made my morning brighter...

	28-11-2002 21:04									#58
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Augh, I'm confused...

This is what information I can scrape off the floor of these posts:

1) The patch in question as per this poll was about has come out.
2) We are still playing PBEM.

What relevance does the poll have now? Do I need to vote? What's going to happen if what option succeeds if the poll is not moot?

	28-11-2002 21:46									#59
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The poll is now pointless. It should be locked.