20-11-2002 07:54									#1
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if "The Patch", the one that you know, is supposed to make the game WORK, isn't out by the time we want to start (12/1 supposedly), should we wait for it?

	20-11-2002 07:59									#2
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PBEM works now.

	20-11-2002 07:59									#3
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I don't think it addresses any SP issues(and thus PBEM) AFAIK, so I don't see a need for it.
Besides, we don't really know when they will release it, If they announce, it will be realeased 2/12 or even 5/12, I don't mind waiting though.

	20-11-2002 08:00									#4
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no

who knows how long its going to take for the patch to come? we could be waiting for weeks.

	20-11-2002 08:07									#5
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NO

lets not delay this.

	20-11-2002 08:42									#6
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Start now.

We can always patch it later.

	20-11-2002 09:34									#7
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AFAIK if we start the game on 1.04, we end it on 1.04

That's how I understood it. Go see Trip about it, if you don't like it

	20-11-2002 09:49									#8
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No. As it has been said, we have no idea how long it may actually be until we have the patch in our hands. And, as it doesn't effect PBEM (so far as we know), it's not vital.

	20-11-2002 11:24									#9
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Well, anything other than hotseat and PBEM is completely hosed under 1.04, but I'd be ok with STARTING with v1.04 and then upgraded as soon as the patch comes out (assuming it doesn't come out before we start, making this entire discussion moot).

	20-11-2002 12:41									#10
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In the SP DemoGame, we didn't upgrade because saved games were reacting strangely when patched (so spoke the Firaxians).
I say we don't wait, but we upgrade if the patch doesn't affect any significantly the pre-patch saves.

	20-11-2002 12:53									#11
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The problem with NOT patching is, and trust me here, the game is HOSED when it comes to playing over the Internet and it's extremely laggy EVEN ON A LAN (I've played several games on a LAN with my friend... the lags frickin' annoying!). That said, we'll mostly be doing PBEM rather than turnchats or anything like that, so maybe it won't be a problem...

	20-11-2002 13:08									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor In the SP DemoGame, we didn't upgrade because saved games were reacting strangely when patched (so spoke the Firaxians). I say we don't wait, but we upgrade if the patch doesn't affect any significantly the pre-patch saves.

you won't have a choice to whether to download the patch or not when it comes out.
1.04 included an auto-patching feature when connecting to GameSpy. Anyone who tries to play any MP through GameSpy after the patch's release will have to download it.

asking people not to play other MP matches (especially if it actually works ) just because we wish to maintain the integrity of the saves is a bit too demanding.

I understand why you might want to wait, but I fear it isn't practical for this game.

	20-11-2002 14:23									#13
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There is no problem if you install civ&ptw twice, and keep one at 1.04

	20-11-2002 14:33									#14
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If you're playing the SP Demogame as well, you'll end up having 3 installs of Civ+PtW

	20-11-2002 18:33									#15
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Play with the 1.04f patch and when ever there is a new one, upgrade. We are all here frequently enough to be able to keep up with the patches.

	20-11-2002 18:40									#16
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quote: Originally posted by Spiffor If you're playing the SP Demogame as well, you'll end up having 3 installs of Civ+PtW

Actually, four.

The out of date Civ3 the Demo game uses, Civ3 1.29 to support PTW, PTW, and eventually the patched PTW.

	20-11-2002 19:03									#17
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1.04 is already a patch?! Or do you mean another patch?? Be specific!

	20-11-2002 21:56									#18
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1.04 was a patch released the day of PTW's release. there is goign to be ANOTHER patch to make the game WORK somtime in the future (no date as of yet)

	20-11-2002 22:42									#19
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Uber: That is perhaps the best avatar I've ever seen.

	21-11-2002 16:21									#20
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hi ,

we should wait at all costs



have a nice day

	21-11-2002 19:54									#21
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quote: Originally posted by FrustratedPoet Uber: That is perhaps the best avatar I've ever seen.

thats GF's mastery of the modeling and my lame ass photoshopping for the, erm, tatoo

	22-11-2002 02:23									#22
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I already have two versions of Civ 3 on my computer and PTW. I don't want to have to install another version of PTW (my hard drive ain't the biggest thing in the world... even I can use up 30 gigs). Let's wait.

	22-11-2002 10:33									#23
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If we are gonna wait for this one, we could aswell wait for the next one too.
Your still gonna have the same problem in let's say 3 or 4 months.
I strongly doubt this game will be over by then

	22-11-2002 18:09									#24
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I think starting on time is the most important thing.

Firaxis said in on of their chats that you can upgrade a game in progress to a new patch as long as everyone upgrades. Of course we have yet to find out how true that is... but none the less let's get on with it.

	22-11-2002 20:26									#25
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I can' t believe more people would rather wait until NEXT YEAR (THAT'S SIX MONTHS, PEOPLE) to start playing this game over starting on Dec 1.

There is no way I'm waiting that long, I'll just find a game somewhere else.

Last edited by GhengisFarb on 23-11-2002 at 06:56

	22-11-2002 20:56									#26
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I hope everyone is getting regular exercise, and eating a healthy diet.

	22-11-2002 21:13									#27
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NO DELAYS!

GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO!

	23-11-2002 01:01									#28
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hi ,

it shall be worth the wait , .......

have a nice day

	23-11-2002 01:56									#29
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Worth the wait? It's just a patch! Not a new game!

Start now, and forever hold your peace

btw, in regular Civ III, my games seemed fine after I patched them.

	23-11-2002 01:58									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Panzer32 Worth the wait? It's just a patch! Not a new game! Start now, and forever hold your peace btw, in regular Civ III, my games seemed fine after I patched them.

hi ,

if all goes well the patch is around the corner , so why not , .......

have a nice day