20-11-2002 20:51									#1
	Specialists? Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Hey all,

I'm having a problem with Scientists and Tax Collectors that I have been seeing in Civ III since I installed PTW. Entertainers still work fine, but Scientists and Tax Collectors are having no effect, other than the loss of whatever resources their tile had been producing. Has something changed since last spring, when I stopped playing Civ III? Or is this a bug? I have seen this in several games since I reinstalled and updated Civ III / PTW.

Any thoughts?

	20-11-2002 21:17									#2
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The effects of the specialists work fine, however those effects don't show up in the city screen. A taxman will add 1 gpt to your overall civ income, and a scientist will add 1 beaker to your overall civ research. These effects cannot be seen on the city screen, but can be checked on your domestic advisor screen.

	20-11-2002 22:32									#3
	Hm Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Ah. But didn't is used to show up, or was that just in Civ II? Either way it should show up since it is from that city. Does it still figure in to the city at all, for wonder and facilities bonuses, or is it just an empire wide pool now?

	21-11-2002 00:47									#4
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It's just empire wide, now. Civ2 would apply the bonus to the city, which was great because it applied bonuses of improvements/wonders. They changed it, and now it just gives you +1 of the appropriate thing - gpt or beaker. Not nearly as useful, and I can't really figure out why they changed it. IIRC, a scientist in Civ2 with all science improvements, and both double science wonders, would add 7 or 8 beakers or so to the total science output. I used to love getting that size 42 science city - the 22 extra scientists would give a ton of extra beakers. One of the things they shouldn't have changed, IMO.

	21-11-2002 01:03									#5
	Ah Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Dang. That kinda sucks. I also think the old method would have been better. Maybe they thought it unbalanced.

Thanks!

	21-11-2002 02:25									#6
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Thanx for the info metalhead.

It's a real shame they don't say these things in the MANUAL like they should do!