21-11-2002 22:10									#1
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ok my last turnthread as commissioner...i need the orders....and maniac would you be so kind to please finish this term....i will try to follow them this time...the problem is that i have a very bussy life....i have school until 16.30 then i have to learn....i train 5 times a week and i work....besides that i have currently a school endproject that i am working on.....so when i play the game I am:
a) tired
b) kinda in a hurry
c)also working on how to alter gunpowder so that is it usable in rockets (school end project)

so i will do the last one every order exactly as you want me too this time but i could use those orders.....from everone

	22-11-2002 04:09									#2
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The T&C orders from last time still aren't executed, so why don't you just use those...

	22-11-2002 11:05									#3
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Keep the orders from last time, I see no reason to change them.

	22-11-2002 16:05									#4
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maniac did i really did execute any orders i used your orders the best i could....or did i read them all wrong....?

	23-11-2002 02:12									#5
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Three quarters of them yes. Anyway:

Orders of the Directorate of Terraformation and Colonization

Base locations: (14.54), (19.59), (6.108), (5.113), (19.107), (30.98)

Some quick orders. Not the best possible, but I refuse to spend much time on it.

Sea formers

Improve the bonus tiles.

Formers near Crystalis/UNP1
One former goes to the nutrient tile, FIRST builds a road and THEN a forest.
The second former finishes the road on its current square and then helps the other former foresting the nutrient tile.
When finished, let these formers plant forest on the non-fungal river squares.

Formers south and east of New Tassagrad
Plant forests on the road between New Tassagrad and Mysidia

Formers near Deus Ex Machina
Build road to (6.108). Build sensor array on that future base square.

Formers near Tacticus Academy
Build farm&condensors on those flat squares near TacAc.

Some more care for these:

Formers near Sheathed Sword
The former building a solar collector STOPS IMMEDIATELY and starts on a condenser instead. The second former nearby constructs a road on its current square and then helps the other complete the condenser.
When finished, do the following orders on square (13.59) in the order I tell them: first road, then farm, then condenser.

Formers near Terminal Dogma
Former SW of base: move SE to the rocky square. First build road, then mine.
Other three formers: first remove fungus, then build road on the square. When finished, one moves to build roads on the four non-fungal flat squares E of Terminal Dogma. The other two build roads on squares (17.63), (16,62) and (17.61).

Also since I have ambitions for governor of Jedinica Province, the Ds of BP and IE are missing, and the D of PO hasn't done a thing, I'd like to propose some changes:

Concordia:
Change build queue to Rec Commons and then Network Node. So do NOT finish that crawler.
When the rec commons is finished, please switch some doctors back to the fields.
Please upgrade the scout patrol garrison to a 1-1-1 non-lethal methods special ability unit.

Pandemonium:
Please upgrade the scout patrol garrison to a 1-1-1 police special ability unit. Otherwise there will be a riot in two years.

Sheathed Sword:
Switch workers to the rocky minerals and the farmed flat&rainy square.

Thank you for your cooperation,

Maniac

	23-11-2002 20:47									#6
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ok tanx but with only these orders i can play today trying to do it tomorrow if we have enough orders

	23-11-2002 23:36									#7
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if you can play today, why dont we have a chat instead? no time?

	24-11-2002 00:34									#8
	Help yourself to an AD-FREE life

If we have a chat we can avoid a lot of this debate over carrying out orders. IMHO if its possible to do, its the best option.

	24-11-2002 02:19									#9
	Got spare money?

Is there or is there not a chat?

	24-11-2002 02:25									#10
	Got spare money?

only DBTS knows.

	24-11-2002 14:20									#11
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well if people can we could try a chat somewhere is week? we can every one be there?

	24-11-2002 14:22									#12
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DEI Orders
Scout: Pop pod, then exploe that area.

West Probe: Pop pod, head north.

East Probe: Infiltrate the hive, then go back and steal tech.

	24-11-2002 14:41									#13
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quote: well if people can we could try a chat somewhere is week? we can every one be there?

I won't be available until next weekend.

	24-11-2002 23:36									#14
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i'm less available on weekday afternoons now (19.00-22.00 GMT)

	25-11-2002 08:47									#15
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Keep orders from last time: Maintain the present social settings until we research Cyberethics, at which time change directly to Knowledge.

As for availability, this coming week is an abnormal one for me, so I can't really say. Tell me a time two days beforehand and I'll say if I can make it. The weekend should be fine.

	27-11-2002 14:55									#16
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I won't be available for a turnchat this week.

	27-11-2002 21:27									#17
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Will there be one and when? DBTS? I would like to reach 2209 before the end of this term.

	27-11-2002 21:38									#18
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Same here. Can people do the usual 22:00 GMT Saturday?

	28-11-2002 03:10									#19
	Put an end to popups!

likely

	28-11-2002 15:11									#20
	Tired of ads?

i cant but if joeno can i am ok with it!

	28-11-2002 22:28									#21
	Full PM-box? Change here!

Theoretically, I could.

However, I've been pretty sick lately, and am tired, so I am planning on going to bed early, so I'd prefer not to play.

	29-11-2002 11:10									#22
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Yes. I have Monday off school, so lack of sleep won't be such an issue, though I am feeling very sleepy after camp.

	29-11-2002 17:48									#23
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ok how are we going to do this? I support a chat but i cant on saturday who can make it today around 21.00 GMT?

	29-11-2002 21:26									#24
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Today? I can. It doesn't necessarily need to be a chat for me. As long as we get some more turns played before the end of this month I'm fine with it.

	29-11-2002 21:37									#25
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then i can play the 7 turns on sunday! everone agreed? and which orders do i still need?

	29-11-2002 22:27									#26
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I could make it today, not sure about Sunday, but I wouldn't mind not having a chat either.

	30-11-2002 00:30									#27
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Im up for a chat, anytime tonight, Sat or Sunday (evenings) is good for me.

	30-11-2002 01:58									#28
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sunday 21.00 GMT?

	30-11-2002 02:32									#29
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With the absence of dmm1285 and with all the talk about crawler overproduction in New Apolyton, can I suggest some crawler orders? Or is Maniac still doing that?

Anyway, if were having turnchat/thread before the new governance takes over and Maniac isn't doing them, here are some orders we could use:


Crawler (14,90) (NA) rehome to TBIBTU, crawl energy (13,63) (energy bonus) - especially if we can get it solared soon.

(8,92) (NA) rehome to Concordia, crawl min (12,74) 7 min mine - change worker (12, 74) to (9,73).

(23,91) (NA) rehome to New Suez, crawl min (23, 91).

(8,94) (NA) rehome to UNPD, crawl min (8,94).

(11,97) (NA) rehome New Tassagrad, crawl food (6,112).

(10,104) (NA) rehome New Tassagrad, crawl min (10,104).

(8, 104) (NA) rehome Dues Ex Machina, crawl min (8, 104).

(26, 96) (NA) rehome UNP1, crawl food (26,102) - Get it farm/condensed if possible.

(8,94) (NA) crawl 7 min mine (17,89) - change worker to forest.

(12,84) (Con) crawl min (12,78).

This reduces New Apolyton's eco-damage to 8 (from 80 ) and it can still produce the CDF in 14 turns from scratch, with other bases production much improved. If that's not fast enough, then keep some more crawlers attached to NA.


And the ones to be built soon:

Sheathed Sword - crawl min (13,63).

Terminal Dogma - former (17,67) mine (18,68) then crawl min.

Pandemonium - rehome to Sheathed Sword, crawl food (13,61).

Concordia - crawl food (16,38).

Antioch - crawl min (13,89) and (8,92)

TBIBTU - have former solar (14,88) then crawl energy, and crawl food somewhere.

Tacticus Academy - crawl food somewhere.

UN Pizza Delivery - crawl min (8,106) and food somewhere.

Zanarkand Gate - crawl foos somewhere.

New Tassagrad - crawl min (10,110).

Mysidia - former (19,107) or any of the 3 on (18,108) mine (20,108) and crawl min.

New Suez - (crawl 25,97) min - change worker to sea.

We need many more farm/condensors to crawl food from, and more mines (outside base squares) because we're crawling minerals from forests, which isn't that productive! With this in mind , and seeing the number of new crawlers we're building without anywhere to put them, can we replace some crawlers in base queues with formers?

We also need some drone control facilities built in Concordia and Tacticus Academy quite urgently.

	30-11-2002 04:37									#30
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2100 GMT? Still ok with me.