22-11-2002 13:09									#1
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There's a nice preview of the game at IGN.

IT SPOILS SOME SURPRISES OF THE GAME

Link is HERE

Guys at ima-community already feel sorry for spoiling their surprise about harvesters.

Bye, I'll go reading it again.

Edit: typo

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	22-11-2002 13:19									#2
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I have reached my daily limit for IGN media. Bye for now.

	22-11-2002 13:45									#3
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Yeah theres been ranting and raving about that on IG forums.

	22-11-2002 13:48									#4
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avoid 4th paragraph...

	22-11-2002 17:20									#5
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What a load of hoopla. Can't see why people get so worked up about it.

	22-11-2002 20:09									#6
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Thanks, but I don't want ot know. I like surprises.

	22-11-2002 20:32									#7
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I just skipped the 4th paragraph...

Anyways... that's 2 previews so far and I was hoping that they would be much more hype-generating than they have been. Maybe because moo3 is not meant to be mainstream?

*sigh* I was just hoping that moo3 would be getting previews that said "You MUST buy this game," "you're an idiot if you don't buy it" stuff like you see with WC3 and AOM, etc

	22-11-2002 22:17									#8
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At first I didn't really understood what the spoiler issue was but as the guys at IG forum were so excited I thought you might be too.

Later I saw an edited version of the review here and compared it with the full one to see what's the big thing. I was a little dissapointed. Yes it's cool but saving the info for the day you play the game ... come on. So they did a totally different race. So what ...

Just bring the game people. I read so much about it that I'm getting bored even without actually playing it.

	22-11-2002 22:20									#9
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i'll skip the entire article so that i'll be suprised when i get the game

i'm going to have to avoid the forum for those days between when the game comes out and i finally get ahold of teh game, i don't want to know a single thing about the harvesters before i run into them

	22-11-2002 23:06									#10
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I don't think it's much of a spoiler. Didn't everyone pretty much guess the Harvesters would be like that?

Anyway, I don't see what the big deal is , since every race has to do the same thing. I really wish they had separate quests/victory conditions/abilities for each race (almost like in Medieval:TW)

	22-11-2002 23:40									#11
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quote: Originally posted by yndy I was a little dissapointed. Yes it's cool but saving the info for the day you play the game ... come on. So they did a totally different race. So what ...

So what, is that I've spent 3 + years keeping certain parts of the game secret when Marketing would beg for 'exclusives' to hand out to people because i wanted there to be some surprises when you play the game for the first time.

With media proliferation these days, you (as noted in this tread) feel like you've played the entire game before you even open the box. I wanted to have at least a couple of moments of discovery for the first-time player.

	23-11-2002 00:11									#12
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Thankfully, the article has (finally) been edited, the spoiler information removed.

Of course, I still expect to see some heads roll over this flap....

	23-11-2002 00:28									#13
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edit by markg: come on guys....

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	23-11-2002 00:53									#14
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Why the hell would you post that?

edit: reference to above post before MarkG's edit

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	23-11-2002 04:44									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Rantz I wanted to have at least a couple of moments of discovery for the first-time player.

Don't worry, Rantz!
Not many people have read the spoiler, I'm sure.
The harvesters remain a mystery.
What are the 5 Xs? What will they do? Another big surprise(s).
There are the random events too. I heard some of them will be pretty amazing.

And, in the trivial activities, you can notice that every screenshot triggered more questions than it answered.

MOOIII is still a big box of candies.

Now, tell us it's gone GOLD, for God's sake!!!

	23-11-2002 10:14									#16
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Well, read the unspoiled version of the preview and it seems alright. Not really comemnting about the whole Harvesters thing since I don't know what its all about(haven't been following it really). But its too bad it looks like all this IFP stuff and dumbed down space combat is still in. I loved controlling all of my Empire, I hope there will be an option to do so, with limitations able to be set by the player. As for space combat it seems a lost cause, no more missile boats defeating space monsters..

Edit- Hmm, catching up on things and reading posts here, IFP got dropped it seems. So i'll be able to micromanage to my hearts content, heh. Then i'm all set and can't wait for it to come out, want to see how space combat works out now though. This has alsp prompted me to reinstall MoO2 and play again.

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	23-11-2002 10:33									#17
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I'm deleting my links to Apolyton and others until I see the game in the store. Bye for now.

	23-11-2002 11:05									#18
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Doesn't anyone have a copy of the first version anywhere? If people are too scared to post here, perhaps email it to me at baronjutter@shaw.ca thanks!

	24-11-2002 01:06									#19
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Well i didnt get to read it, along with most. And, from what i have read, most of the "in the know" people that did read it says it brings up more questions than it answered. Altho Rantz was quite upset (deserved) I really dont think it will take much away from gameplay or surprise, even if you had read the un-edited article.

	24-11-2002 01:11									#20
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Whya re people so afriad to see alittle info? LMAO. I read the review about the harvesters but didnt really give a rats ass because I cant even remember what they said about it besides...........

Im guessing thats why people got mad. Still its just a game and its not like info will spoil the entire game for you lol.

	24-11-2002 02:42									#21
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I'm not wasting any sleep over this either. If Moo3 is what we hope it'll be we'll be playing it for years, and the "Oh! Gosh!" factor about seeing race X first time is pretty darn low on my list of things I want in this game...

	24-11-2002 10:54									#22
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Please don't kill me Rantz

I did not mean to offend you. I just never thought of the info from your perspective.

Now the difference between the unspoiled world and the few that are spolied is that the former think of one question "What are the ...." while we would have to question "How will they behave?, When can you tell? Can you tell at all?

I'd like to appologise to Rantz again for offending him. I never got a game developer answer my comments before. I must have annoyed you

	24-11-2002 15:54									#23
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After reading the un-edited article, yes indeed it did give away a spoiler about the Harvesters. But for me at least, and as others have mentioned, it really intrigued me further. I'm now aching even more to play the game so i can find out all the answers to the questions that the "leak" threw up.

Fair play, it wasn't meant to come out, and i can understand the frustration of all the guys involved with keeping the Harvesters a "secret". However, i do NOT think it was near as damaging as it could have been, as they were pretty vague and didn't go into much detail about game effects. Glad it's edited though, as people who did not read it will hopefully be clawing at the shop doors to get a copy when it's released

	28-11-2002 03:16									#24
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quote: Originally posted by Alex-C Fair play, it wasn't meant to come out, and i can understand the frustration of all the guys involved with keeping the Harvesters a "secret". However, i do NOT think it was near as damaging as it could have been...

I have to agree here - the leak could be worse.

As it stands, this "harvester's leak" seems to have generated a huge buzz. Yeah, unfortunate that there was a leak, but it seems that the buzz may result in more publicity, sales, and moolah for Rantz and Co.

I haven't read the spolier - but if I did it wouldn't detract me from buying the game. It doesn't look like it has had that effect on anyone. I still dig "the Empire Strikes Back" even though I know that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalkers father.

I would also like to say that this is the first time I know 5 people who are buying this game. My buds - usually pirates and cheap bostords - are buying it.

James is in training now, refreshing his MOO2 skills (he never did manage to beat me).
Alex bet* me he would win the first head to head game we play. Even my Elerian girlfriend (who usually scolds me for playing games) is getting a copy.

Empires will fall this Christmas.

*Conditions of Game 1: Winner gets game for free, loser pays for it. Gambling is bad, I know. But only when you lose...

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	11-12-2002 19:27									#26
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Personally I think of the Harvesters as Saberhagen's Berserkers. Glad I missed the spoiler that might have changed that.

	15-12-2002 10:00									#27
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Anyone has seen a screenshot with the planetary vision of Orion yet??

	25-12-2002 10:29									#28
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quote: Originally posted by gramians I haven't read the spolier - but if I did it wouldn't detract me from buying the game. It doesn't look like it has had that effect on anyone. I still dig "the Empire Strikes Back" even though I know that Darth Vader is Luke Skywalkers father.

Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father?! You need to post spoiler warnings with that stuff!

Anyway, could someone private message me whatever the harvester spoiler was? I *want* to be spoiled and cannot find a single post ANYWHERE with the original information despite the fact everyone seems to want to leak it all because two or three heavy handed mods both on the IG forums and here delete the info even when plenty of spoiler warning is given. Thanks.

	26-12-2002 07:39									#29
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I don't have the info but I remember when that thread was posted here. It made it almost a full day before it was ripped.

	08-01-2003 05:57									#30
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Maybe this thread needs to be unstickied. No replies since boxing day. I think the anger has resided

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