23-11-2002 10:42									#31
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Have any of you listened to the music on that link. The theme fromTwin Peaks. My god I really like that series. Go David Lynch.

	23-11-2002 10:49									#32
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quote: Originally posted by Boris Godunov That design is horrific.

Don't worry, its not the one being considered.

	23-11-2002 10:55									#33
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My favorite design was the giant cross, with the big-assed Mecha-Jesus on top that would swat incoming planes away. Tis a damned shame no-one took it seriously.

	23-11-2002 11:05									#34
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quote: Okay, enough ranting. I haven't seen it, but skyscrappers are always butt ugly. You can't make skyscrappers look good. Not even the great architects such as I.M. Pei.

I think that the Petronas Towers are rather beautiful...

The design idea presented on this thread is crap, however. I want to see the world's tallest building on the WTC site, but I don't want it to look like that.

quote: My favorite design was the giant cross, with the big-assed Mecha-Jesus on top that would swat incoming planes away.

We need to work a Star of David into the design as well.

	23-11-2002 11:11									#35
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Perhaps the building could be in the shape of upward-extending arm ending in a clenched fist of defiance, and a finger, you know the one, that makes New York's meaning clear.

	23-11-2002 11:30									#36
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Well, maybe Mecha-Jesus could hold the Star of David in the hand he uses to swat the planes?

	23-11-2002 11:39									#37
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quote: Well, maybe Mecha-Jesus could hold the Star of David in the hand he uses to swat the planes?

Or maybe he can use a Star of David as a shield while hitting the planes?

	23-11-2002 12:29									#38
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fly too high youll burn your wings...

	23-11-2002 12:47									#39
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I think the design looks quite nice

	23-11-2002 13:32									#40
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quote: Okay, enough ranting. I haven't seen it, but skyscrappers are always butt ugly. You can't make skyscrappers look good. Not even the great architects such as I.M. Pei.

Oh? I think the Chrysler Building is one of the most beautiful buildings I ever saw. And the Empire State is not all that bad too.

	23-11-2002 13:37									#41
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Skyscrappers are problematic since there is no real way to fight fires that break out above thirty stories or so. With all the lifts out of order and probably no electricty, how do you get water to that level? Flying a few helicopters won't do anything.

Skyscrappers are so 20th century. It should be time to rethink the whole idea.

	23-11-2002 14:01									#42
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	23-11-2002 20:23									#43
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quote: Originally posted by DRoseDARs I hope they're talking about this building for the tallest: http://www.wtc2002.com/start.lasso

I just re-read an article about, what plans there have been for Ground Zero...and that one beats them all...in ugliness and boringness...

The pictures in that article were much greater...

Btw...the article was from a science magazine (I believe that's the word...)

	23-11-2002 20:33									#44
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Here's one of the pictures...

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	23-11-2002 20:38									#45
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And here's another one...(there's more, but these two are the best...I think...)

The article also says something about, there's planned to be gardens or something like that, in the small holes, for the picture below...

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	23-11-2002 20:45									#46
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Wow, those two designs are cool as hell. But they don't belong in NYC. They belong in the Sunbelt or California. NYC buildings need a modernist look, like the Chrysler and Empire State buildings.

	23-11-2002 21:20									#47
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Yeah, I will say that the ESB and Chrysler buildings are both very beautiful. Classic, simple and elegant designs. Plus, the Chrysler building has gargoyles. You can't beat that.

	23-11-2002 21:39									#48
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Actually, I think it is time we see something along the lines of skyscrapers we see in science fiction films. I am thinking of Coruscant as a good example. Does anyone have any pictures?

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	24-11-2002 00:19									#49
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The WTC was ugly too, we just got used to it. The ESB is pretty ugly. The Chyrsler is great if you like Gothic (which I do).

They won't build the tall building because tall buildings lose money. The ESB took 35 years to break even. The WTC *never* did.

	24-11-2002 00:22									#50
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But if we must go phallic, then ef-it, build Frank Lloyd Wright's mile tall building and let the rest of the world try and beat it.

	24-11-2002 00:44									#51
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I've had a longstanding interest in Ethiopian culture and history, which rivals that of the surrounding area. I'd like to see a new building modeled around one of these sacred obelisks .

I dont understand why you would necessarily want to build the tallest building in the world, as if to thumb our nose at the rest of the world. Just build something that will be a subtle, respectful monument.

	24-11-2002 00:48									#52
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Subtle? Respectful? Are you really an American? I want nothing more than to thumb my nose at the rest of the world. Those ****ers can destroy our buildings, but we can build them again, bigger and better.

	24-11-2002 02:09									#53
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"Subtle? Respectful? Are you really an American?"

	24-11-2002 02:18									#54
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Yes, I am an american. And one who thinks you don't need to disrespect the memory of those that perished with some garish monstrosity that says "Nyah nyah, we can build one bigger"

	24-11-2002 02:25									#55
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Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

I can't think of anything more American than building a garish monstrosity out of spite...

	24-11-2002 02:35									#56
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I seen it, WAY too unreasilies, COPPER PADS!!! Really, some one could hijack it, put guns on it, and treeorist the cities, REALLY!

	24-11-2002 02:36									#57
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ADG, those are atrocious designs. The "Mutant Aliens from Pluto" look is so hideous it makes me physically ill. The only time that such designs remotely look appropriate to me is when they're used for Art Galleries/Museums.

And Kepler, FLW's Mile High was meant for Chicago, not New York (I was born in Chicago, so for me to say otherwise would be blasphemous ). They should get a design tailored for their skyline, not someone else's.

For the naysayers of the link I provided, I like that design not because of its looks (which yes, could be better...), but because of its practicality. It makes efficient use of the space alotted to it, in that instead of a cluster of short buildings seperated by large, open spaces, it's a tight group of four 1300 foot towers inter-connected and cross-braced for support in the event of a major disaster. The sheer girth of the building almost garauntees (sp?) that the impact of a commercial jet would not be enough to bring it down. Such a large building allows more opportunity for escape and more ways of bringing in resources like water and electricity to combat fires. And in addition to the above, this is Lower Manhattan we're talking about people, on of the most valuable and expensive stretches of land in the world. Do you really believe that the WTC site is going to be made into a 16 acre park? It just won't happen, despite the emotional charge of the issue. The WTC was too important an institution to allow it to remain as dust. They must rebuild it and its former site is the most sensible place to rebuild.

Like I said, the design I linked to may not be the most creative and inspiring design, but it is the most practical, given the economy and also the public's traditional jitteriness/cautiousness/warriness towards mega-projects of bizarre designs.

	24-11-2002 07:24									#58
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What I want to know is what is this "sound wave" technology they claim can repell aircraft?

	24-11-2002 08:11									#59
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Oh, great, another kitsch monstrosity by that hack Ghery. It'll be the equivalent of looking at a tacky 60's strip mall in 20 years. Build three of them!

	24-11-2002 08:52									#60
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ADG, those designs you linked are even worse than the four pillar monstrosity. Are those ones made for an ugliness competition?