23-11-2002 04:50									#1
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OK, I know we had a thread some time ago regarding the worst starting positions... I just begun an emperor game as the Russians, all random, and here's what I first see.

I think I'll love the Russians for once

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	23-11-2002 04:54									#2
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i assume this post to be meant as an ironical musing? moving one square to the left comprises one of the all time greatest starting positions in my ever so humble opinion.

lateralis

	23-11-2002 05:14									#3
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Yep, I've never had such a fantastic starting position (by moving my settler one tile to the left, there is one more cattle ).
I wonder if some people here even had something better

	23-11-2002 05:15									#4
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Seconded. Wow. Spiffor, you should post the 4000 BC SAV for new players.

	23-11-2002 05:18									#5
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Keep us updated on the progress of this one, Spiffor. I'd like to see how far out in front you get. That is the best starting location I've ever seen. It's downright beautiful

	23-11-2002 05:23									#6
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Actually, after some exploration, the land surrounding me doesn't look like a pangaea (I only play Russians when I feel having half the surface of the world), so I don't think I'll continue the game

Here's the save at the very beginnign for those who want some happiness after having a crapstart

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	23-11-2002 05:26									#7
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tsk tsk it's close to jungle and it doesn't get the river bonus

	05-03-2003 13:05									#8
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This was quite wonderful, but alas, it has no river close to it...

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	05-03-2003 13:39									#9
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Wonderful start, Spiffor. I hope the cows are not mad. What I see, is 3 cities with a granary and an output of 3 settlers in 4 turns or 3 workers in 2, if you can manage to get the shields (I don't see bonus grassland) and happiness on emperor.

	05-03-2003 16:35									#10
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Sometimes good starting positions are not always obvious from the start, but they are just as good.

For example when you start on an island, together with the Egyptians.
Only to find out you are sitting on the only source of horses on the entire island.

	05-03-2003 20:20									#11
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Wow.

As someone who tends to seek out nice starting spots, I have to say that's one of the best I've ever seen. One of the best, but I don't think THE best. I've had better (but not for a long time).

A lot of times, though, the surrounding land is terrible, meaning that what looked intially like an awesome start spot actually isn't any good.

-Arrian

	05-03-2003 20:55									#12
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I've seen better..

	05-03-2003 21:07									#13
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What if that goody huts contain a settler...

Now THAT would be the best start ever

	05-03-2003 22:29									#14
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hi ,

the americans get goods ones all the time

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	07-03-2003 02:37									#15
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panag, what is it with you and the Americans lately??

Nice start, aaglo.

	07-03-2003 20:50									#16
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Geez, I'd be in Civ3 heaven with a starting position like that...

	07-03-2003 22:51									#17
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I seen better.....after I edited the map and restarted until got the starting position I wanted.

Pretty good for a randomly generated map.

Spec.

	08-03-2003 22:19									#18
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I have just been through several restarts and this came up. The most bonus resources I have ever had! Pity about the jungle though - it will take ages to clear.

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	08-03-2003 22:24									#19
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It actually got better. There is a horse under Alesia and I managed to grab an iron with a city a little further to the right. I also have dyes, silk and furs with my bit of this continent, enough room for eight cities so I can build the FP and ivory within grabbing distance as soon as I get some Gallic Swords built.

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	08-03-2003 22:47									#20
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus panag, what is it with you and the Americans lately?? Nice start, aaglo.

hi ,

the two traits they have make them excellent for play

there is no other reason behind it what so ever

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	08-03-2003 23:59									#21
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I got this one yesterday, as my first try... I will sure shoot for UP here...! (UP=Ultimate Power, see Start forum or Arrian for more details)

--Kon--

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	09-03-2003 00:18									#22
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Jesus Christ!

I'm not even 100% sure what I'd do with that...

	09-03-2003 00:27									#23
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hi ,

extreme wealthy starting positions are best spread over several cities , ....

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	09-03-2003 07:22									#24
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hi,

Yeah, I know. In fact, the rest of this continent was pure crap... I managed to do something OK out of it...!

In fact, I started on the cow where is my worker so I had to move. I really devided to move in the right place!

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	09-03-2003 13:49									#25
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quote: Originally posted by Theseus panag, what is it with you and the Americans lately?? Nice start, aaglo.

From panag's posts the last couple of weeks I'm guessing he's on the US payroll...

	09-03-2003 13:51									#26
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Those would have been great starts for the ISDG

	10-03-2003 01:39									#27
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen Those would have been great starts for the ISDG

hi ,

well if we would have started as the americans , .....




well what you want with those traits and its combination , .....

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	10-03-2003 02:34									#28
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panag, really, what's the deal with your pro-US leanings going all the way as to saying that the US gets better starting positions?????

what mysterious statistical phenomenon makes the US get better starts at civ3?

	10-03-2003 19:37									#29
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The best start I ever had was in the Intersite Democracy game. Obviously can't post any screen pics.

	10-03-2003 20:38									#30
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quote: Originally posted by Master Zen panag, really, what's the deal with your pro-US leanings going all the way as to saying that the US gets better starting positions????? what mysterious statistical phenomenon makes the US get better starts at civ3?

hi ,

A - take each civ , large or huge map ( 256 X 256 at least ) starts ten times with each civ , ...... you shall understand , ......


B - industrious and expansionist combined together


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