24-11-2002 02:39									#1
	Naming cities according to the true Spanish history Suffering from ads?

Hi

In regard of roleplay purposes, I'm wondering if it'd be right to name our first city 'Madrid'. In fact, this city was unknown at the dawn of the Spanish civ. The first mention of Madrid in a book was made about 1000 AD. The city was early named 'Majrit' (from the arab language), and after Madrid. This city becomes the Spanish capital under Phillipe IIth, at 1561 AD.

I suggest 'Gadir' (currently Cadiz) as our first city, In fact, Gadir was the true known first city of Spain, founded by the phoenitians.

Other following cities were Malaca (Malaga), Hispalis (Sevilla), Abdera (Adra),... About 550 BC, the Greeks founded Emporion (Ampurias), Rhode (Rosas), Dianion (Denia), Sagonte (Sagunto),...

Other cities were founded by the Celts or by the Romans.

It would be fine if we try to respect the historical developement of our civilization, and adapt the names of our cities accordingly.

Following this idea, Madrid could become our capital (if needed, by renaming Gadir or another city) at the end of the medieval era, after the building of our first Conquistador.

Any thoughts ?


PS. I'm very worried with my bad English. I hope you can live with it !!

Last edited by astrologix on 24-11-2002 at 02:47

	24-11-2002 03:14									#2
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Im all for roleplay and realism, but I would rather use the standard city list.

	24-11-2002 03:53									#3
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Yes, I'd be with Ninot on that.

	24-11-2002 04:02									#4
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Compromise, I'd say Hispalis (Sevilla) would be a good choice for the first city. Just because another civ (the Phoenicians) founded a rest stop in the area to be latter known as Spain is no reason for us to be forced to use it for our first city.

	24-11-2002 04:17									#5
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Comprimise?

naaaaaah

	24-11-2002 04:21									#6
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astrologix.

Actually, I'd be ok with our first city being 'Madrid', but I think we should establish "REGIONS" (Aragon, Castile, Leon, Galicia, Cataluna, etc.) where the cities in that region are appropriately named

	24-11-2002 04:26									#7
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I thought Tartessos was the first city in Spain, but I agree with everyone else. It will be much easier to go along with the default names so we avoid arguments about “what should we name this city”. Maybe we can pick up the forgotten cities once we get to founding New Madrid.

	24-11-2002 04:34									#8
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Quite so, Arnelos.

	24-11-2002 05:28									#9
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quote: Originally posted by astrologix PS. I'm very worried with my bad English. I hope you can live with it !!

All we expect from a Swiss is a strong currency. I much prefer your English than the one of all those Americans who use in every sentence words that are not in my dictionnary.
But if your English is good, does that mean that your currency ...

	24-11-2002 05:40									#10
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I feel compelled to report to Togas that all of you (with the exception of Astrologix not yet contaminated) are impertinently contradicting formal orders regarding the way the Roleplay must be roleplayed.

We unfortunately know how city naming can degenerate when not backed by a firmly affirmed policy.

Juan de Torquemada
The faithful Prosecutor (for a start)

	24-11-2002 06:08									#11
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DAVOUT, astrologix, et al,

Here's an old joke I heard a few years ago... It plays on stereo-types (other than the Swiss one, which just doesn't make any sense... but that's beside the point)...

A European's Vision of Heaven and a European's Vision of Hell:

In a European's vision of heaven...

The English are the Police
The Germans run the Government
The French do the Cooking
The Swiss run the Banks
and the Italians are the Lovers

and in a European's vision of hell...

The English do the Cooking
The Germans are the Police
The French run the Banks
The Swiss are the Lovers
and the Italians run the Government

...

	24-11-2002 06:13									#12
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The problem the EU has is that the Swiss stubbornly refuse to enter !

	24-11-2002 16:07									#13
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I'm not a rich Swiss

	24-11-2002 20:45									#14
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quote: Originally posted by DAVOUT The problem the EU has is that the Swiss stubbornly refuse to enter !

The problem is that the countries that are already inside the EU would rather prefer to have stayed out

	24-11-2002 21:52									#15
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Please! Not Italians running the government! Anything but that!

(Once again, I feel impelled to assassinate Torquemada...)

	25-11-2002 01:29									#16
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[OOC]

There is a similar joke about Canada:

We could have had

English government
French cuisine
American business;

but instead we ended up with

French government
American cuisine
English business.

	25-11-2002 03:09									#17
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Interesting to observe that now we feel oblige to tell jokes OOC !

	25-11-2002 08:24									#18
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quote: Originally posted by pikesfan [OOC] There is a similar joke about Canada: We could have had English government French cuisine American business; but instead we ended up with French government American cuisine English business.

That's AWESOME

	25-11-2002 23:46									#19
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Please !!Keep teling these magnific jokes!

	26-11-2002 01:27									#20
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Back to the initial discussion.

We should stick with the city names in the game, otherwise if we used the historical names, we would have to change them as they changed and that would be confusing.

OK, now back to the jokes...

Why do people envy worms?
They're the only ones who can make ends meet.