25-11-2002 21:39									#1
	The Scenarios in PTW are Shi!t Enter the AD-FREE zone

I have recently obtained a copy of civ3 PTW, and tryed some scenarios and there absolutly 100% awful

ok about 97% cause theres a couple of good world maps and (not actually a scenario) but some of the terrain mods (s00pys) etc.

i mean there is one called beach and its just a line of desert tiles, and another bulls eye i think (2 versions) which are just rings and others which are just tottaly crap and probably took around 20mins at most to make.
I seriously mean no offence to the creators of these scenarios, but they shouldnt be on a bloody retail game, there just very crap.
Its as if ive gone on a sprawl downloading every internet scenario there is (no matter how crap or incomplete) and just clogged up my hard drive with the sh!ite, im seriously thinking of actually deleting some of them there that bad.

This is meant to be a pure flame post (well not purely) but does anyone else agree with me (honest opinons here) maybe i should have setup a poll. They are truly the worst scenarios I have ever seen and played. The Civ2 ones that came with fantastic worlds etc, where mainly very good and they where mainly fan made too. I feel maybe the reason for this is that modding and editing ability for Civ2 was so much better and possibly the enthusiasm in mod makers and general fans was much higher than in Civ3.

anyway thanks for reading (if you did)

-James

EDIT: I could give way more examples of the crap scenarios (as i said around 97% of them) but i dont feel the need

	25-11-2002 22:06									#2
	Re: The Scenarios in PTW are Shi!t Support Apolyton, buy Civilization III: Complete

quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG EDIT: I could give way more examples of the crap scenarios (as i said around 97% of them) but i dont feel the need

What about doing it the other way. Which ones do you consider good? I am not into scenarios myself, I always stick to random maps and vanilla rules, but if someone as pissed off as you recommends any one of the PtW included scenarios, I might give it a try.

So...

	25-11-2002 23:27									#3
	Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations: Deluxe Edition

I agree in spirit (but not quite the language) that several of the extras included with PTW are simplistic.

If you want a full fledged different experience, try TETurkens Mod, the rules only mod, not the map or the cities. You will need to download the latest version as the one on the CD doesn't have everything, and it's been updated since. It's a 50 Meg DL, so I hope you aren't on dial up.

Enjoy

KP

	25-11-2002 23:35									#4
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

Arent you the slightest bit dissapointed with this PTW feature. I mean what is there, Scenarios are crap, Mplay is crap (as in rarely works and is laggy as hell) and there is like some new civs wow, not anything good

	26-11-2002 00:08									#5
	Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG Arent you the slightest bit dissapointed with this PTW feature. I mean what is there, Scenarios are crap, Mplay is crap (as in rarely works and is laggy as hell) and there is like some new civs wow, not anything good

Well, I do not mean to start an argument here, but for me, the single most important thing is the user interface, which is much better than it used to be. The improvements in the Foreign Advisor screen (active trades) alone would be worth getting PtW for me. And the AI performs way better as far as the economy (production/money) is concerned. Dunno why, but I am quite sure it does. Must be those "small tweaks", as Soren likes to call them.

Now, what about the scenarios? Are there any worth giving a shot IY(H?)O?

@kwp: thanks for the tip. Fortunately, I am on a cable...

	26-11-2002 00:36									#6
	Support Apolyton, buy GURPS/ Alpha Centauri

Ok here is a selection of Scenarios that i have just randomly picked out the list (except the beach one)

Oh and they all have standard rules (90% of the scenarios do)


Its a bloody discrace

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	26-11-2002 00:50									#7
	PTW is total crap, take my word for it Support Apolyton, buy Galactic Civilizations

and an example of what the game spelling is like

This is hilarious, i mean I remeber in the screenshots before the release there was a load of spelling errors on the screenshots. looks like there still there

Oh and this is actually the only one that says Antartica in the description, the others say stupidly Antartida

Tell me again, was PTW someones school project or something, to gather the most amount of Civ3 shi!t off the net and make an addon out of it (not saying this maps sh!t btw, havent tried it, so as not to insult the author)

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	26-11-2002 01:23									#8
	Re: The Scenarios in PTW are Shi!t Remove this text

quote: Originally posted by SMIFFGIG This is meant to be a pure flame post

That would explain your ranting and raving...

If you want to discuss things in a civil way, fine.. but if you want to just foam at the mouth, do it somewhere else.

And next time you use childish tricks to get around the censor... you are toast. The owners have the auto censor on for a reason. If you don't want to respect their wishes... find someplace else.