28-11-2002 09:14									#1
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It looks like MOO3 will be delayed at least another 3 weeks possibly more...which means they are going to miss out on the holiday shopping season. I realize they want the game solid and bug free out of the box, but by missing most if not all of the holiday season, they are going to lose alot of "impulse 'that looks cool, he/she will like that' gift buying" sales....which means MOO3 will sell dismally...and that means no MOM2. I suggest they work around the clock 7 days a week until testing is done if they have any hope in getting it on the shelves before XMAS.

	28-11-2002 10:35									#2
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Whatever happens I MUST HAVE MOM2 !
Damn, this revival of MOO3 have just made me long for ressurections of those classics ... I'd love to se a new X-COM ... but none of those lame sequels that came imideately after the first ... and just imagine a MOM2 ... the possibillities with such a game ...

	28-11-2002 10:38									#3
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If you're basing this conclusion on the "few more weeks" comment in the Gamespot interview, please keep in mind that we don't know when the interview was actually conducted. If it took place in early November, nothing's changed at all. Even if it was last week, it's not a disaster.

	28-11-2002 10:44									#4
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... and in fact, Constantine posted the following comment to the IG MOO3 board later this evening:

Reference: http://www.ina-community.com/forums...threadid=238076

quote: The bulk of that interview was actually done a few weeks ago; Gamespot wanted a few corrections and i spoke to Sam at Gamespot today re: where we currently are. It'll be done when it is done.

So relax, OK?

	28-11-2002 11:03									#5
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Actually he's right:

quote: The game's producer reveals to us that Infogrames' space empire game won't make its scheduled release date and has a few more weeks of testing to go. Earlier today, we spoke with Master of Orion III's producer Constantine Hantzopoulos, who confirmed that the game will not make its previously announced December 4 release date. He explained the decision by saying that there were a few crash bugs remaining in the multiplayer and that "quality is paramount," so the game won't ship until it's done. Find out more in this extensive interview on the final weeks of the project.

Master of Orion slips

	28-11-2002 11:04									#6
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Oh okay, that's good to hear....although it won't make December 4th.....let's hope for december 10th or so..

	28-11-2002 11:04									#7
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Heh well, I read that as "I spoke to Sam at Gamespot today regarding where we currently are." Not, "Gamespot wanted a few corrections and i spoke to Sam at Gamespot today. Re: Where we currently are, It'll be done when it is done."

Either way though, "it'll be done when its done." Which I suspose is better than "It'll be done before its done."

In any case, Im believing gamespot, and assuming EB's new date of the 18th is close to valid, so I went ahead and cancelled my pre-order since Ill be moving post-graduation, which is on the 14th. I just hope it doesnt come out while Im at my mother's house for christmas, "Well, see you mom, Im driving to Nashville to buy moo3, be back in 6 hours."

	28-11-2002 11:06									#8
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Yeah, let's hope. I'm canceling my preorder in the meantime.

	28-11-2002 11:16									#9
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quote: I just hope it doesnt come out while Im at my mother's house for christmas, "Well, see you mom, Im driving to Nashville to buy moo3, be back in 6 hours."

Heh, nevermind, I just checked the EB store locater, seems they've added an EB to the little mall in Jackson, TN, which is more like 30-40 minutes from my mother's Much better than 2 and a half one way

	28-11-2002 11:20									#10
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Sounds like the 19th is the new date. At least that's what people on the Infogrames forums are saying. EB is listing the 19th as the new date.

	28-11-2002 11:28									#11
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Now that is cutting it close for xmas.

	28-11-2002 12:14									#12
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I said it 3 weeks ago when it when it didnt go GOLD for the 26th release, I think it will slip to a January release. I wish it would come out now but when you look at how things are going and have gone the last few months, I think ill be proven right. But in the end i dont mind waiting as multiplayer will be a big part of my games, me and a mate play games spanning weeks so moo3 is right down our alley. Dont bag them if its not released for christmas there making a great game, have patience.

	28-11-2002 13:22									#13
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So does Dec 4 hold or not?

	28-11-2002 16:24									#14
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You are killing me.

US release for Dec 19 will mean that no way I will get it from the States before 2003. I was postponing a lot of stuff from November till January so that I have some free time with MOO3. After January I'll have about 10 hours per week if I don't want to fail some major exams. I could have had hundreds of hours of play in November plus the whole holiday but NO, they want to fix the multiplayer, so go ahead fix it and take your time.

I think I'll pay some attention in July 2003.

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	28-11-2002 17:55									#15
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No doubt IG and QS are about as happay as we are with not meeting their x-mas target. If we think the 19th in the US is it, then it will be quite late for the season (many will already have bought their x-mas presents) and it won't show over here this year at all. Which will hurt sales no end.

I'm really sorry on QSs behalf - to have this much effort and time spent on a game that hits the post-season slump.

Oh well, I'll probably buy it anyway. Seems they are actually working to fix the most horrendous bugs, unlike another IG franchise we all know and hate.

	28-11-2002 18:07									#16
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quote: Originally posted by yndy After January I'll have about 10 hours per week if I don't want to fail some major exams.

10 hours a week? Terrible... How do you survive?

	28-11-2002 18:21									#17
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Hold on a second none of this has been confirmed by the devs anyway so DEC 4 might hold they only had the multiplayer and game save bug to fix i dont think they would lose two weeks from those two bugs

	28-11-2002 18:38									#18
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quote: Originally posted by Gooberman32 Hold on a second none of this has been confirmed by the devs anyway so DEC 4 might hold they only had the multiplayer and game save bug to fix i dont think they would lose two weeks from those two bugs

Ahh, I see that you are as naively hopeful as I am.

	28-11-2002 19:36									#19
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quote: Originally posted by Gooberman32 Hold on a second none of this has been confirmed by the devs anyway so DEC 4 might hold they only had the multiplayer and game save bug to fix i dont think they would lose two weeks from those two bugs

The quote from Chantz seemed pretty official to me. Unlike forum posters, 'zines are not generally prone to misquoting people

	28-11-2002 22:01									#20
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I dunno but in the extreme condition they're in, maybe they should think about a wider beta
Well all bugs would be tested

Maybe taking people of confiance such as Ming, Mark... Exactly, what's the use of taking less people in a beta, except less leaking info (thus confiance people needed)?