29-11-2002 16:45									#1
	Should Bronze Working be the first tech we try to discover ? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

OK people, here's the official poll regarding Bronze Working.

Question is :
Should Bronze Working be the first tech we discover ?

Answers :
YES
NO

The poll will officially close in 3 days, but will apply as soon as the game starts.

	29-11-2002 16:47									#2
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I doubt there will be any NO, but it's very possible that some people disagree with the general consens about BW. It's the place to do it.

	29-11-2002 17:16									#3
	Re: Should Bronze Working be the first tech we try to discover ? Support Apolyton buy from Amazon

quote: Originally posted by Spiffor Should Bronze Working be the first tech we discover ?

Absolutely.

We need the Mercenaries to defend ourselves and if we're lucky and find a good spot, the Colossus is a nice early wonder.

	29-11-2002 19:18									#4
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I am all for BW, we urgently need a strong defense against rushes of any kind.

BTW, who is the fourth voter? I mean, Spiffor obviously voted, Tiberius, then me... whose the fourth vote is? Imtoops'? I can see him online...

I know it doesn't matter, but I would like to know who is active and who is not...

	29-11-2002 20:20									#5
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In my own personal games using Carthage, I don't necessarily go straight for Bronze Working as it can take quite a bit longer to research than some others. However, in a game like this against such obviously excellent and aggressive opponents, I think there can be no doubt that we'll go straight for BW --and they (our opponents) know that's exactly what we'll do.

	30-11-2002 01:15									#6
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quote: Originally posted by vondrack I am all for BW, we urgently need a strong defense against rushes of any kind. BTW, who is the fourth voter? I mean, Spiffor obviously voted, Tiberius, then me... whose the fourth vote is? Imtoops'? I can see him online... I know it doesn't matter, but I would like to know who is active and who is not...

You really want every voter to post? Okay; I won't turn down the PC.

BW should definitly be our first tech. Simply having it is a good defense against warmongers, and once we actually have a few Mercs, they'll think twice, and thrice about attacking us.

	30-11-2002 03:58									#7
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If we are isolated on a mass alone we should go for pottery, other than that I say lets get the mercinaries.

	30-11-2002 04:57									#8
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quote: Originally posted by Odin If we are isolated on a mass alone we should go for pottery, other than that I say lets get the mercinaries.

Unless we have an extremely bad start on an incredibly small island (and I have seen a few such starts for the AI), we won't know about an isolated start till many turns later. By that time, we'll have accumulated a lot of beakers and it would be wasteful to switch.

So, even if we start alone, pottery should still be the second tech.

	30-11-2002 08:50									#9
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Yes, bronze working should be first - even if we are on an island we won't be able to tell that for a while (unless it is really really small !).

	30-11-2002 15:23									#10
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Wow, seems like we should really work on the Constitution clauses regarding tied votes and such...

	30-11-2002 21:13									#11
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Why should we go for pottery (after BW), wouldn't it be better to build the Pyramids?

	01-12-2002 02:28									#12
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quote: Originally posted by Tiberius Why should we go for pottery (after BW), wouldn't it be better to build the Pyramids?

If we are on an isolated island, chances are it will be smallish. In such circumstances, building individual granaries might be more cost-effective. Besides, someone might build them before us; and if they do, we had better have Literature to switch to the GL, and we don't know if we will.

	01-12-2002 02:31									#13
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That's true. Well, let's see first our surroundings. By the time we will discover BW, we will know more.

	01-12-2002 03:19									#14
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I suspect that Pyramids will be an early target wonder for most civs (probably second in preference to the Great Library with perhaps Hanging Gardens and Colossus close behind).

	01-12-2002 09:33									#15
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What was I thinking, DOH!!!

	01-12-2002 11:29									#16
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Ok, I'm back from my holiday-induced internet exile! So, yes, I'm all for BW first. This has been discussed much before, and I'm glad to see we're all in agreement.