29-11-2002 21:43									#1
	ideas for what to build in NA? Inflate your Upload Space

i need some ideas for next session for what to build in NA....?

and also what to do with all those crawlers!

	29-11-2002 21:55									#2
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Not my jurisdiction... Je ne veux pas avoir les mains sales.

	29-11-2002 22:13									#3
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Disengage enough crawlers to put us under the clean mineral limit. Then begin rehoming those crawlers to other bases, spreading them more or less evenly, and start crawling minerals again. My suggestion for build orders at New Apolyton is the Citizen's Defense Force, possibly followed by a Command Center and some state-of-the-art military units.

	29-11-2002 22:13									#4
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I know but does any one has an idea....Makahlua is gone! so?

en mijn frans is een beetje roesting.....wat heb je niet?

	29-11-2002 22:14									#5
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tanx!

	29-11-2002 22:36									#6
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I don't want to have dirty hands "mains sales" by getting illegally involved in someone else's businesses and dirty deals, as I'm not governor of New Apolyton. I was referring to Sartre's book "Les mains sales".

	29-11-2002 22:51									#7
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aha but TKG still has to confirm those regions...right?

	29-11-2002 23:11									#8
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If TKG doesn't make me Governor of Concordia and surroundings, I'll stop selling Xeno Inc. products in the Rec Commons.

	29-11-2002 23:19									#9
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that is just plain evil ......eh.....I like it!

	30-11-2002 00:34									#10
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CDF. Like Adam says, rehome the crawlers (7 min mine in New Suez's territory to NS) and reduce (or even remove ) eco-damage.

	30-11-2002 04:51									#11
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I agree with the suggestions for building the CDF, and I also agree that we need to start rehoming the crawlers, in order to spread production around and reduce ecodamage (as 80 really is excessive), though I don't think we should eliminate it entirely.

	30-11-2002 04:58									#12
	Lose 30 kilos (of popups)

Ok... I posted on 'turnthread 2202-2209' some crawler orders that reduce it to 8 and still keep it able to build the CDF in 14 turns. Or keep a few more crawlers on it, with damage about 30 we can do it in 11 turns, but thats too much eco-damage IMHO.

	30-11-2002 05:10									#13
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Why? It will produce a pop in a few turns, which the formers can deal with, and we can then cut back on output a bit more, which will allow us to fully exploit ecological facilities and gain us some extra minerals at the same time.

	30-11-2002 05:24									#14
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Because we have a stark lack of formers at the moment IMO. We're using crawlers on forests because we have no mines or farm/condensors, and if the pop hits the 7 mimeral mine, then production will be delayed by much towards building the CDF.

We don't have the former time to be dealing with pops at the moment. At least wait until we have more terraforming done before we start allowing excessive eco-damage.

	30-11-2002 20:46									#15
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quote: Originally posted by Maniac If TKG doesn't make me Governor of Concordia and surroundings, I'll stop selling Xeno Inc. products in the Rec Commons.

ah, but remember. you work for me now


as for getting regions straightened out, i'm getting increasingly more of a life now () but week-ends are still more or less open. just hold on. i still don't know who's governor of what yet

	01-12-2002 04:18									#16
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Well, assuming I remain as governor of the Midlands, here are some draft orders for NA crawlers:

Move 14,90 crawler to mineral bonus on 17,89 and crawl minerals.
Rehome 23,91 crawler to NS.
Rehome 8,92 crawler to Tacticus Academy, then move it to 9,89 & crawl minerals.
Rehome 26,96 crawler to NS, then have it crawl minerals from 27,97.

This will allow NA to build the CDF in 10 turns, while reducing ecodamage to 30. Mineral production will go up again when we can get a crawler to the mineral bonus and move the worker onto forest. This plan will also allow for increases in production at other bases, most especially NS.

	01-12-2002 10:31									#17
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YEP CDF a priority, along with rehoming.

	02-12-2002 11:43									#18
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I am entirely in favor of General Tacticus' directions for the NA area.

	02-12-2002 19:23									#19
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I concur. While running 30 ecodamage is excessive for my tastes, we do still need a pop. Let's be prepared for it (in case the pop takes out something essential) with some formers hovering around the area. If the situation gets too dicey with pops, we can always reduce ED again. But construction of the CDF in as short a time as reasonable is a worthy goal.

	02-12-2002 19:41									#20
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Agreed. As long as we are working on the CDF and not yet another crawler, we can justify the eco-damage for the moment. Though my long-range goal is to have no eco-damage, if we have to have eco-damage, it should lead to something. Defense of our cities via the CDF would strongly protect us from the Hive; that mitigates the still-significant eco-damage.

	02-12-2002 21:01									#21
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i have will take 3 NA crawlers that are in my region and redived them over my region bases so that the eco damage will be less

	02-12-2002 21:21									#22
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I agree, although I still think it's a little high, and we don't have enough formers as it is, since we have crawlers crawling forests and nowhere decent to crawl food or energy.

	02-12-2002 21:27									#23
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GT's plan is sound. I'd favour a higher EcoD until pop, because we actually have two of these for "free" - no worms! - and they both increase the EcoD cap by one.

	03-12-2002 11:07									#24
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quote: i have will take 3 NA crawlers that are in my region and redived them over my region bases so that the eco damage will be less

Which crawlers are they? They're still in my jurisdiction.

	03-12-2002 13:34									#25
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yes but in my terriority i asked TKG for permission....they are two that are in the forests south of ZG and one north of ZG..all belonging to NA right now but i want to rehome them to my bases

	03-12-2002 13:47									#26
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What effect would that have on NA?

	03-12-2002 15:39									#27
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It would reduce the building power by 6 minerals, and the eco-damage

I think we get the CDF in 12 turns and at about 12 Eco-damage, but I'm not completely sure