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Shiber is offline Shiber
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Jul 2002
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Call me a paranoid but... regarding website Suffering from ads?

Call me a paranoid but I think we need to take the screenshots off the website and post them in the forum instead. Posting sensitive information on the web just seems like an unnecessary risk to me.

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We can't post attachments here.

alva is offline alva
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Suffering from ads?

I could zip it, and put a password on it.

Shiber is offline Shiber
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Inflate your Upload Space

Oh wait, I didn't realize there was a problem with attaching files in private forums.
Anyway, if you want I can set up a password-protected site for the screenshots instead of the one that we are currently using.

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That would be great Shiber.

alva is offline alva
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Enter the AD-FREE zone

sure,

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Tired of ads?

Could you fix it so I could put shots up, and not have to email them to others? Would save a step.

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I could zip it, and put a password on it.


Just as good, provided that you're using Winzip 8.0 or newer (older versions have poor security).
However, Winzip's encryption isn't very strong and with enough computer time one of the other teams can crack the password and reveal our starting location. Maybe you should send it to me after all.
Use this Email address: barak_12@bezeqint.net

Shiber is offline Shiber
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Got spare money?

How about this: can everyone here use FTP?

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Tired of ads?

Yes, here.

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Aha... That's a better idea... a pwd protected web site (if it is ssh2, of course). Cracking zip - paswords isn't very difficult, only a few months back I needed to crack one from a collegae who forgot his own pwd, it took less than an hour with the first downloaded program...

DeepO

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DeepO, there's no need to use ssl or anything like that. I don't think the other teams are going to go into so much trouble as to intercept our computers' outgoing communications and grab the password, so password encryption isn't necessary. IMHO regular HTTP-authentication-based passwords are enough.
As for zip passwords, if we make a password that's unguessable, complicated and VERY long (like 15 characters or something) it could take years before a regular PC can break the password.

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Well... things change when you have some serious computers at the ready... I work in a building in which one of the research groups is world known when it comes to encryption, I'm sure they laugh at zip encryption

Not that I know anything, of course, I wouldn't know how to encrypt a web site, I just use the ssh server at work like any other server... if you feel like setting it up, and believe it to be safe, I'll be happy!

DeepO

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The NSA have some wicked computers that are based on light. Instead of using electric pulses to pass information through their circuits, they use light, which effectively travels faster than electric pulses in circuits for numerous reasons. They use them to break high encryption.

Btw, where exactly do you work DeepO? It says in your profile that you've studied AI.

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Increase the size of your Attachments

Shiber, I'm a PhD student at the university of Leuven, and even if my research group is convinced that what I am doing has something to do with numerical algebra, I still consider it AI (just not the same as the one used in games)

www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be if interested... the cryptography group can be found at www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/cosic (they invented the Rijndael algorithm which the US governement now uses in all secure but unclassified information).

so back on topic now

DeepO

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Put an end to popups!

hey why, this is very interesting

stuff the topic

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DeepO

(the new king...)

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Congratulations!

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Question: How would WinZip based encryption affect those of us who use a different zip program? I'm not inclined to pay for WinZip and I don't like using shareware without paying, so I use a free program (Power Archiver) which is about as good instead. (The latest versions of Power Archiver have gone shareware, but I'm still using the last free one.)

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AFAIK WinZip doesn't use any locks that are copyrighted to WinZip Corp. They use a standard lock as set by the ZIP standard. Any zip program should be able to open them, given that it is not older than several years and can open the new locks (which are far better than the old ones, which were just plain pathetic).

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